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Posted on 10/23/26 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 9:41 pm to
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Why would Musk not want Starlink to work at faster speeds for a more effective defense?


It was given to them for defense only which Ukraine happily accepted on those terms. Faster speeds allow offensive weapons.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 10:25 pm to
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the killing of innocent Russians thousands of miles from the battlefront?


You mean refinery workers in legitimate targets?
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 10:35 pm to

I remember that time rather well. Ukraine was offered assurances of its independence in exchange for giving up its nukes.

An old engineering friend knew a couple of American engineers who helped dismantle the nuclear arsenal. Yeah, it was a big deal and a big worry that nukes could fall into the wrong hands.

Funny thing was an American engineer giving the "Okay" hand sign to a Ukraine/Russian engineer up on a cat walk. The former Soviet engineer was seriously pissed because they don't have the "Ok" hand signal and thought it was the Soviet signal for a-hole.

Budapest Memorandum

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According to the three memoranda,[9] Russia, the US, and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively removing all Soviet nuclear weapons from their soil, and that they agreed to the following:

Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).[10]
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:01 pm to
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It was given to them for defense only which Ukraine happily accepted on those terms. Faster speeds allow offensive weapons.


I thought I read it couldn’t be used inside Russia.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:19 pm to
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I thought I read it couldn’t be used inside Russia.


That may also be the case, but Ukraine was pushing to see how far before spanked, not that I blame them
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:39 am to
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What Musk is doing has less legal ground in terms of murder than not giving someone CPR while they are having a heart attack, which is also not murder. Or even manslaughter, for that matter.

Or not helping a woman while she is being raped. The house you have chosen to live in.

This again. Ok, let's correct it. What Musk is doing would not be tantamount to "not giving someone CPR", it would be tackling and holding down the EMT as he emerged from the ambulance. Or doing the same to the police officer responding to the rape.

It has nothing to do with cowardly ignoring human beings in need of help, it is criminal intent to kill and harm those human beings.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:52 am to
You actually posted this? Reading this tripe is bad enough.

Hacked Starlink's signal?

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:59 am to
More critical thinking in Russia.

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Russia's Rosneft is deliberately delaying refinery repairs due to repeated Ukrainian drone strikes, according to Bloomberg.

Some facilities are struck again immediately after repairs wrap up, prompting companies to intentionally stretch work that should take days into weeks.

Defenses made of containers, netting, and steel cables have proven ineffective, making continuous repairs financially unsustainable.

Bloomberg estimates Ukrainian drones have launched at least 114 strikes on Russian oil refineries since the start of 2026—more than double the rate for the same period last year.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:02 am to
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Ukrainian forces struck the Tolyattikauchuk petrochemical plant in Russia's Samara region overnight. The facility is one of Russia's major synthetic-rubber producers and also manufactures monomers, hydrocarbon fractions, polymers and fuel additives.

Its products support Russia's wider industrial base, including raw materials and chemical outputs linked to military equipment and solid rocket fuel production.
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The facility, currently ablaze, handles roughly a quarter of Russia’s key synthetic-rubber market.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:04 am to
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NASA FIRMS indicates a strike on the 500/220 kV Taman substation in Russia's Krasnodar region. It transfers electricity from southern Russia to occupied Crimea.

Crimea is now in a total blackout, while NetBlocks shows internet traffic from the peninsula near zero.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:30 am to
They're starting already. This plus Blumenthal's letter and White House blaming will only lead to a full Congressional investigation. Musk's troll army better do a better job of getting in front of this.

The "Hacking Starlink" attempt was pitiful. These bots are designed to sway voter opinion, not jury opinion. Once established by Congress, the courts will limit evidence to the actual technical truth, not disinformation posted by a series of X bots.
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Three Silicon Valley members of Congress have taken the reported Starshield restrictions affecting Ukraine to White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. Sam Liccardo, Jimmy Panetta and Ro Khanna are demanding an investigation.

Their October 23 letter asks who ordered the slowdown and whether SpaceX violated federal contracts. That puts the contractor’s obligations under scrutiny alongside the decision to restrict a service Ukraine’s military relies on

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:45 am to
"... he represents a national security risk." Absolutely.

And as soon as the evidence of technical manipulation is established in Congressional hearings, Musk will be adjudicated as such.

Then the Ukrainians will file civil suits against SpaceX for war crimes in numerous jurisdictions worldwide. With the Starlink physical existence and businesses in almost every country, jurisdiction and penalties will be unlimited.

And we thought that Russia was going to pay reparations out the wazoo...
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Should be evidence for any congressional inquiries into what happened with Starshield. If Musk is throttling a Pentagon-run defense network, which was commissioned to work in a partner nation as a matter of U.S. policy, because of his own political bias or desire to sway the midterms he’s heavily invested in (see his subsequent tweet), then he represents a national security risk. I’d argue he represents that anyway.
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Part of the problem people have in determining who controls what is that they assume things in this administration and government work the way they’re supposed to. Ask anyone at, say, the State Department how that assumption applies to reality.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:58 am to
A good article on CIA Head John Ratcliffe and the US intelligence efforts against Russia.
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Ratcliffe came into office promising, with Trump’s support, to return to the agency’s roots of espionage and clandestine operations.
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Tulsi Gabbard's most enduring contribution to national security was to gut the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, slashing the number of personnel by more than a third.

As the ODNI has declined in size and relevance, the CIA, with Ratcliffe in charge, has reclaimed its traditional role at the center of the intelligence community.

On paper, the president’s chief intelligence adviser is the director of national intelligence. In practice, it’s Ratcliffe.
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The administration’s policy is deeply conflicted, and perhaps no one understands that better than John Ratcliffe, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. He has a foot in two worlds: advising a president who’s continuously at odds with Ukraine’s leadership, and running an agency that’s essential to Ukraine’s war for survival.

One intelligence officer in the Baltics, who works closely with the Americans to counter Russian influence, told me that, though you’d never know it from Trump’s rhetoric, the CIA’s operations are now “much more aggressive” than they were during the Biden administration.

The Man in the Middle of Trump’s Deeply Conflicted Ukraine Policy - CIA Director John Ratcliffe leads an agency that’s at war with Russia, even as Trump makes nice with Putin.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
6130 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 4:12 am to
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Faster speeds allow offensive weapons.


Faster speeds enable defensive drones to intercept jet powered Geran-3 strike drones that are targeting civilians.
This post was edited on 10/24/26 at 4:13 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 4:24 am to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
6130 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 4:29 am to
Starshield operations restored to speeds of more than 400 km/h, Ukraine's Defense Ministry says

October 24, 2026 10:57 am

Starshield, the militarized version of Elon Musk's satellite internet system, Starlink, was working above speeds of 400 kilometers per hour (about 248 miles per hour) as of the morning of Oct. 24, after they had previously been limited to 161 kilometers per hour (about 100 miles per hour), Ukraine's Defense Ministry told reporters.

"We record a speed of more than 400 km/h, the connection is stable," the ministry said.

The ministry continues to monitor and record the work of Starlink and Starshield, according to Defense Minister Yevhen Khmara.

"This is another example of direct dialogue and the persistent position of the President of Ukraine at the highest level yielding results. And this result is, above all, important for our front, for the military, the work of drones, logistics, and communications," the ministry added.

Since mid-October, Starshield has been operating at limited capacity. With speed limit caps, Kyiv's ability to defend from deadly Russian jet-powered drones and coordinate strikes against Russian targets is hindered

Despite Ukrainian and U.S. officials apparently engaging in discussions to resolve the disruptions, nobody has publicly taken credit — or blame — for making or implementing the decision. However, the Trump administration officials continue pointing fingers firmly at SpaceX CEO Elon Musk.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Oct. 23 that Trump had ordered SpaceX CEO Elon Musk on Oct. 21 to lift the restrictions, saying the president was "frustrated the system's speeds remained capped at around 160 kilometers (100 miles) an hour."

Trump said he had not spoken to Musk about the issue but might do so if the problems persisted.

"I have not spoken to him," Trump said. "I might have to, but I have not... I've heard it's fixed. If it's not, I will speak to him.... If there's a problem, I will get it straightened out."

On Oct. 23, President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed that issues with Starlink continued to plague Ukrainian forces.

"The speed restrictions for Starlink and Starshield are still in effect," Zelensky said. "The speed has not been restored. And the supply of interceptor missiles to protect against Russian ballistic missiles is still delayed."

On Oct. 23, U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal announced that he is opening a probe into the Starlink disruption. Blumenthal's investigation asks the Pentagon to clarify who ordered the restrictions and to provide information on the U.S. military's own reliance on Starlink.

Kyiv Independent
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4910 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 5:14 am to
Elon is right
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8892 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 8:03 am to
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criminal intent to kill and harm those human beings.


Good luck proving that
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8892 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 8:04 am to
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Hacked Starlink's signal?


Just say you can't read and have zero technical knowledge. People who actually do figured it out a long time ago, but you admitting it would help the select few who still for some reason find you credible
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43419 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 8:08 am to
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Faster speeds enable defensive drones to intercept jet powered Geran-3 strike drones that are targeting civilians.

That’s what I was thinking too.
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