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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 4/13/26 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Once again, there is no such narrative, or at least not on this thread


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given the narratives on the PT that the new government is going to be some kind of satanic leftist cult or something.


Once again, I ask that you actually read the things you reply to.


Looks to me like we are in agreement that it's not on this board, and that little qualifier I put in acknowledged that - 'cause, ya know, I read it.

But hey, keep buttin' mashin'! It's working out great for ya!
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Looks to me like we are in agreement that it's not on this board


"This board" is the PT. "This thread" is the Ukraine thread. I have seen it, numerous times, on "this board" today. Hope that helps, I know it can be hard to differentiate different buttons on those leapfrog tablets.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 2:28 pm to
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In the UK a retirement home is NOT free. Everything you own, bank account, property, etc.. is given to the government in exchange for a decent room and care.


The exact same thing as in the U.S. If you enter a retirement home they get your assets. My brother-in-law managed retirement homes before he retired early, and for this reason, he has advised his older family members to go ahead and gift most of their savings among the family as they get to the age and condition that they have to enter retirement/nursing homes, which they are doing.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41298 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:16 pm to
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His party doesn't support sending weapons or troops to Ukraine either.


Excellent news
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42603 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:22 pm to
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His party doesn't support sending weapons or troops to Ukraine either.

Excellent news


Nothing burger, Ukraine wasn’t getting help from Hungary previously.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15665 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:22 pm to
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The exact same thing as in the U.S. If you enter a retirement home they get your assets.


bullshite, didn't happen for my dad.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:39 pm to
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Nothing burger, Ukraine wasn’t getting help from Hungary previously.



And Hungary has little left to give, after 16 years of Orban's grifting... there's a story about all the government records being shredded there at the moment.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 3:50 pm to
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The exact same thing as in the U.S. If you enter a retirement home they get your assets.


bullshite, didn't happen for my dad.


Really? Your dad stayed in a retirement home for free?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41298 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 4:16 pm to
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Ukraine wasn’t getting help from Hungary previously.


I love this
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42603 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 4:33 pm to
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I love this


It doesn’t take much
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42603 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 4:34 pm to
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Really? Your dad stayed in a retirement home for free?


That’s not what he said. His dad stayed in a nursing home and they didn’t take all of his assets.

Why make stuff up?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5643 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 5:10 pm to
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That’s not what he said. His dad stayed in a nursing home and they didn’t take all of his assets.

Why make stuff up?


He said this:

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As I stated, they get private healthcare insurance so they can be treated in the US instead of waiting up to a year. In the UK a retirement home is NOT free. Everything you own, bank account, property, etc.. is given to the government in exchange for a decent room and care.


He made that jump... and to extent that he exaggerated what goes on in the UK (see below), I pointed out the same goes on here, and he offered his dad as an exception, which implies he was providing an example of our free retirement homes... which, like there, they are if you are penniless (but they don't put you in a particularly nice one in that case).

His dad paid to stay in that nursing home... and if the cost exceeded his retirement/social security payments or the savings account he gave them access to take it from every month (which they do usually exceed, as the costs continuously rise and people live in the homes for 5 or more years on average, at an average cost these days of $100,000 a year), he then had it covered by Medicaid... and unless he was completely penniless, Medicaid does something called the Medicaid Estate Recovery Program, "a mandatory program that requires states to seek reimbursement from the estates of deceased Medicaid beneficiaries for certain long-term care costs, primarily for individuals aged 55 and older. This includes costs for nursing home care, home and community-based services, and related medical expenses."

In the UK: "The UK does not automatically take assets from people entering retirement homes. However, if a person needs financial support for care, the local council may assess their assets (like savings, property, and income) to determine how much they should contribute toward care costs. This is called a financial assessment or means test."

One way or another, they got paid. It works no differently than what he pointed to in the UK. My brother-in-law has seen it happen to just about every person in the nursing homes he managed, because $100,000 a year is a lot and that burns through what most people have within 5 years... so, if you're going into one of those, best to go in aware of that...

How to Avoid a Nursing Home Taking Your House: 7 Proven Strategies
This post was edited on 4/13/26 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Ukraine wasn’t getting help from Hungary previously.


I love this


I don't doubt it.

So how do you feel knowing that the $90,000,000,000 loan that the EU has planned for the Ukraine that Orban was backing at the behest of his sugar daddy, Putin, now is more than likely going to go through?
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 5:24 pm to
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His dad paid to stay in that nursing home... and if the cost exceeded his retirement/social security payments or the savings account he gave them access to take it from every month (which they do usually exceed, as the costs continuously rise and people live in the homes for 5 or more years on average, at an average cost these days of $100,000 a year), he then had it covered by Medicaid... and unless he was completely penniless, Medicaid does something called the Medicaid Estate Recovery Program, "a mandatory program that requires states to seek reimbursement from the estates of deceased Medicaid beneficiaries for certain long-term care costs, primarily for individuals aged 55 and older. This includes costs for nursing home care, home and community-based services, and related medical expenses."

One way or another, they got paid. It works no differently than what he pointed to in the UK. My brother-in-law has seen it happen to just about every person in the nursing homes he managed, because $100,000 a year is a lot and that burns through what most people have within 5 years... so, if you're going into one of those, best to go in aware of that...

How to Avoid a Nursing Home Taking Your House: 7 Proven Strategies


Not to be a dick, but keep we keep it on the topic of Ukraine embarrassing Russia? I know we drift away on the topic sometimes, but this doesn't like anything related.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 5:30 pm to
sure
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 6:45 pm to
Been following this area for a while now

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Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13215 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 8:33 pm to
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The exact same thing as in the U.S. If you enter a retirement home they get your assets.


bullshite, didn't happen for my dad.

Was your mom still alive at the time?

The government will go after any assets that they can with nursing home placement. Many variables apply I'm sure but I've seen it.

Just giving it away to family isn't enough. Better sign it over early as there is a 5...or maybe 7...year clawback on gifted assets.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15665 posts
Posted on 4/13/26 at 8:43 pm to
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Was your mom still alive at the time?

The government will go after any assets that they can with nursing home placement. Many variables apply I'm sure but I've seen it.


Mom died in 1991, dad in 2014. Dad's insurance paid for it
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