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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:24 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:24 pm to CitizenK
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I falsely assumed that Russia would unleash their version of shock and awe and that their tanks would steam roll right over the Ukes.
Boy was I wrong.
Same here
We all did. Every objective metric pointed to Russia being in Kiev in less than 6 months.
The pathetic part, however, is that the Russians did unleash their version of 'Shock and Awe' - it just sucked.
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Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:26 pm to Coeur du Tigre
This image is so foreign me, and probably to all, that it looks like something out of 'Game of Thrones' and all the houses in it.
Here's to their independence - I hope they get it.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:43 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Gee, could that be because the Russians are putting all of their money into a wartime economy? Pardon, me - a 'Special Military Economy'?
If the Russians invest $1,000,000 into a tank or whatever, and the tank goes and gets blown up, or the soldier gets killed, then not only do they not have the $1M they don't have a tank, or a father, son, brother, factory worker, etc.
So now they have no cash on hand, or liquidity, and they don't have the assets they sent on suicide attempts into Ukraine for, what? 70 meters a day? And now they're spending about 8% of their entire GDP on this war?
Not really a mystery, if you ask me.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:47 pm to VolSquatch
Ya'll know this how it always goes, right?
The Union, for example, brought in a bunch of Irish and Italians to do all the fighting for them to win the Civil War. So much so that there were actual race riots up in New York and other areas of the Northeast, not that the Yankess will ever acknowledge this. Hell, some of whom are not only my ancestors, but also probably a number of yours.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:48 pm to Leopold
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We all did. Every objective metric pointed to Russia being in Kiev in less than 6 months.
The pathetic part, however, is that the Russians did unleash their version of 'Shock and Awe' - it just sucked.
Looking up the available troops of Ukraine and that of the invasion force, didn't look that way to me. It was pretty even in numbers, but Ukraine was defending.
The Russians tried a three pronged armor attack, but the ground was too soft and they ended up on one paved road in a month long traffic jam while being pounded with Javelins, Nlaws and artillery. Russian troops thought they were on an exercise.
They did nearly take the airport.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:48 pm to VolSquatch
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Your friend might want to check on Kupyansk
Why? Is Z still hanging out in the middle of it?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:51 pm to Leopold
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Ya'll know this how it always goes, right?
If they import a bunch of incompatibles, yeah, that's the road to the fate of Lebanon. Plenty of people around the world who would prove to be both productive and compatible for assimilation.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:12 pm to Auburn1968
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Looking up the available troops of Ukraine and that of the invasion force, didn't look that way to me. It was pretty even in numbers, but Ukraine was defending.
Iraq had more men than the coalition did. They had more tanks and artillery; yet our shock and awe obliterated the Iraqi forces.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:21 pm to doubleb
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Iraq had more men than the coalition did. They had more tanks and artillery; yet our shock and awe obliterated the Iraqi forces.
That's true, but qualitatively they were seriously inferior. Ukraine and Russia were pretty much on par with each other. Ukrainians had the will to fight having suffered at Russian hands in terms of millions murdered or starved to death within living family memory.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:54 pm to Auburn1968
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Looking up the available troops of Ukraine and that of the invasion force, didn't look that way to me. It was pretty even in numbers, but Ukraine was defending.
Yeah, that was the first indication that things were off. I told a couple of people Russia only had 120k when, based off of US numbers, they needed something like 2M. It was the 'tell' that the Russians had no idea how to fight a modern war.
As far as the airport goes, the Russians weren't as close to taking it as people suspect. The Ukrainians had a mechanized unit waiting for the Russians to try to take it, and when they believed the Russians had committed the entirety of their airborne troops to it they sent in a bunch of BMPs and tanks and just wiped them out. Another tell that the Russians didn't have a complete plan and the Ukrainians were a step ahead.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:40 pm to doubleb
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Iraq had more men than the coalition did. They had more tanks and artillery; yet our shock and awe obliterated the Iraqi forces.
Most Iraqi troops did not like Saddam enough to die for him and didn't bother fighting, in either of the Gulf Wars... which is why his toppled generals suddenly became devout fundamentalist Islamicists and convinced them to fight and die for Allah under the flag of ISIS.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 7:54 pm to Auburn1968
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That's true, but qualitatively they were seriously inferior. Ukraine and Russia were pretty much on par with each other. Ukrainians had the will to fight having suffered at Russian hands in terms of millions murdered or starved to death within living family memory.
We know all that now, but at the time most believed the Russian military was much better plus that they had an enormous advantage in missiles, anrmor and air power.
Plus they had 8 years to plan their invasion.
No, it was a logical assumption that we’d see a Russian version of shock and awe.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 8:01 pm to Leopold
I knew three English brothers who served in the US Army to gain citizenship in the US. The eldest owned a pub in Lake Charles which had previously been a restaurant and a farm up in Longville. The middle brother was a master cabinet maker and did great work. The youngest was a soccer player, bald but wore a wig and a painter. Even though almost always inebriated he was a good painter and made quick work of apartments.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 8:42 pm to doubleb
Ukraine had tractors!
Russian air power was underwhelming. It was superior but not dominant. Jets had TEMU GPS taped in the cockpit. Then we find that their lack of coms was 3rd world level stuck in the 50's/60's
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Russian air power was underwhelming. It was superior but not dominant. Jets had TEMU GPS taped in the cockpit. Then we find that their lack of coms was 3rd world level stuck in the 50's/60's
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 12:12 am to CitizenK
A good review of the issues the CIA and MI-6 had convincing everyone that the Russian invasion was coming. And how they obtained this intelligence themselves.
The Guardian
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A war foretold:how the CIA and MI6 got hold of Putin’s Ukraine plans and why nobody believed them
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Drawing on more than 100 interviews with senior intelligence officials and other insiders in multiple countries, this exclusive account details how the US and Britain uncovered Vladimir Putin’s plans to invade, and why most of Europe – including the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy – dismissed them. As the fourth anniversary of the invasion approaches and the world enters a new period of geopolitical uncertainty, Europe’s politicians and spy services continue to draw lessons from the failures of 2022
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The conversation, as well as three combative face-to-face discussions with Putin’s top security officials, seemed extremely ominous to [CIA Director] Burns. He left Moscow far more concerned about the prospect of war than he had been before the trip, and he relayed his gut feeling to the president. “Biden often asked yes/no questions, and when I got back, he asked if I thought Putin was going to do it,” Burns recalled. “I said: ‘Yes’.”
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Three and a half months later, Putin ordered his army into Ukraine, in the most dramatic breach of the European security order since the second world war. The story of the intelligence backdrop to those months – how Washington and London garnered such detailed and accurate insight into the Kremlin’s war plans, and why the intelligence services of other countries did not believe them – has never before been told in full.
The Guardian
Posted on 2/24/26 at 12:17 am to Coeur du Tigre
With the required Russian social media app MAX, Kremlin surveillance has never been easier.
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"Itina is confused by this war - 'In World War 2, we knew what we were fighting for.' "
Steve Rosenberg with a video on Russian society under pressure from the propaganda to support the war.
Steve Rosenberg with a video on Russian society under pressure from the propaganda to support the war.
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 12:28 am to Coeur du Tigre
Given this guy's history, a stupid blow-up like this was inevitable. Being Ambassador to France will be no fun when you're a pariah.
It's so typical of the Trump Mafia. You land in one of the world's most luxurious jobs and get to spend four years in Paris all expense paid, and you manage to screw it up. Hard to believe, but they always find a way.
It's called stupidity.
It's so typical of the Trump Mafia. You land in one of the world's most luxurious jobs and get to spend four years in Paris all expense paid, and you manage to screw it up. Hard to believe, but they always find a way.
It's called stupidity.
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 12:38 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 2/24/26 at 3:25 am to Coeur du Tigre
This and Orban's holdup of the EU loan just show us the strength of Putin's control over these two. Control that is not simply based on economics.
Instead of being smart and keeping a low profile with their objections to the closure of access to the Russian oil and working to get the pipeline repaired, they insist on doing as much openly public damage to EU solidarity as possible. Which is totally unnecessary. Unless you're Russian.
Instead of being smart and keeping a low profile with their objections to the closure of access to the Russian oil and working to get the pipeline repaired, they insist on doing as much openly public damage to EU solidarity as possible. Which is totally unnecessary. Unless you're Russian.
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