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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:03 pm to
Zelinski wants the US to guarantee election security. Democrates will never go for that.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:06 pm to
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I have to remind myself that I bring this on myself for having debates with people who know literally nothing about the su


I'm still waiting on you to show you know anything about anything other than how to use a keyboard to type a bunch of words that sometimes belong together.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Zelinski wants the US to guarantee election security. Democrates will never go for that.


I haven't seen a single US politician on either side maintain logical consistency on pretty much any issue in the past 20 or so years, so I don't know why they would start now.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:38 pm to
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It was from 3 Ukrainska Pravda sources


I don’t care if it was from 30 sources. They are wrong. It took years for Russia to capture Silversk.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:04 pm to
Going from relatively stable for years to lost in a short period of time can be a "rapid loss".

But maybe you're right, I guess they got fired for no reason
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:25 pm to
It went what, 15 or 20, 30 at most miles in a year? That is not rapid
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Going from relatively stable for years to lost in a short period of time can be a "rapid loss".



Sorry years to slowly deteriorate and fall is not rapid.

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But maybe you're right, I guess they got fired for no reason


Don’t put words in my mouth. I have no idea as to why he was fired, and it could have been for losing Siversk.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 3:06 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 3:12 am to
This could impact the release of Middle Eastern and African 'asylum seekers' by Belarus at the NATO borders.

Impact... mmmm.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 3:36 am to
From the German news outlet BILD -

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“For Donald Trump, Ukraine is an obstacle on the path toward friendship with Russia.”

Tomorrow, U.S. President Donald Trump is set to meet Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky. Meetings of this kind are not held for the purpose of sabotaging agreements.

Through this meeting, Trump clearly signals that he — not the Europeans — is the initiator of any potential deal. This point is of critical importance to him. At the same time, the U.S. president is making a concession to Zelensky and his European allies by inviting them to the negotiating table.

Trump was displeased by the fact that Vladimir Putin rejected a Christmas ceasefire. The circumstance that Zelensky will meet Trump not officially in the Oval Office, but informally at Mar-a-Lago, alters the tone and nature of the discussion. The key question is whether Trump will be willing to increase pressure on Putin following this meeting.

For Trump, Ukraine is increasingly perceived as an obstacle to the normalization of relations with Russia — a process that constitutes his primary geopolitical interest.


"Trump clearly signals that he — not the Europeans — is the initiator of any potential deal. This point is of critical importance to him." This is because Putin needs to sideline the European support of Ukraine in any negotiations.

No, it won't work. Trump has no leverage with Kyiv. Put some Tomahawks on the table and then he will have some cards. Until then, this is just TACO being TACO.

"The key question is whether Trump will be willing to increase pressure on Putin following this meeting." Trump will do what Putin tells him to do. Putin still has his copy of the Epstein files.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 3:56 am to
Say goodbye to what remains of Russia's discretionary spending and all online retail spending. This is an attempt at controlling inflation but with the Central Bank issuing trillions of rubles in 'Repo' loans weekly, it's a rediculous and costly move.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:05 am to
It seems the Belarusian defense force remains uncommitted to the Special Military Operation.

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Lukashenko’s defense minister predicts social upheaval in the country due to rising military procurement. On the very same day, four new Su-30SM2 fighter jets purchased from Russia, costing $50 million each, landed in Belarus. Spending to support the war has already led to a decline in industry and agricultural production.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:09 am to
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Because after 10:00 Putin is already asleep, and Trump can't wake up the boss.




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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:16 am to
China will solve this problem.

quote:

Siberia Predicted to Face Massive Depopulation

If in the 1990s, 21.8 million people lived in Siberia, today this figure is about 16.8 million, noted Yuri Krupnov, chairman of the supervisory board of the Institute of Demography, Migration, and Regional Development, speaking at the "Tobolsk Readings".

By 2030, a reduction in the population to 12 million is expected, and by 2100, in the best case, up to 6 million people will remain in Siberia - for the entire vast region, the scientist predicted. "This is the death of Siberia and Russia," he concluded.



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Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:19 am to
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It went what, 15 or 20, 30 at most miles in a year? That is not rapid


If you live 90 years and are hardy as an ox for 89.5 and then get sick and die within the last 6 months people might say you went down "rapidly" at the end. Not saying I agree with the usage there, but there are a Lot of ways to use the word
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:28 am to
Mmmm... dat Chinese equipment and ammo....


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:29 am to
Posted by T1gerNate
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:41 am to


ISW confirms Russian capture of Hulyaipole.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:58 am to

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