re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

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It's enough of one that we've dumped tens of billions of dollars in aid over the past decade or so, some of it even before the invasion. It's enough of one that the damned CIA decided to do some sort of dicey sh!t there over the years.

But understand the distinction that's being made.

We - as in NATO - see Ukraine as a way to block Russian expansion to the West, 'cause, ya know, we were always a little worried about the Russians and what we have largely known to be a murderous, psychotic dictator's plan to pick a fight. We didn't want there to be one, but you never know when they decide to try to take over half of Europe for no reason at all...

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Sure, look at the comment I replied to. I think its hard to argue on one hand that Ukraine is of interest to us and then also say its not of interest/a risk for Russia.

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Would we ever accept a Russian military presence in Mexico?

No, and we shouldn't.

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100% truth

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Would we ever accept a Russian military presence in Mexico?

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We accepted a Russian military presence in Cuba.

Besides, there’s a big difference in a European/Asian nation in N America than a Western presence in Europe.

All of this is just cover for Russia anyway. There was no Western troops in Ukraine when Russia invaded; nor were there any when they launched the SO.

Now Russia wants a handicapped Ukraine left by themselves so they can restart the war at their convenience. That’s their goal now that their invasion has failed to deliver the desired results.

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We accepted a Russian military presence in Cuba.

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That almost caused a nuclear war, and it was no where even close to the level of presence there would be in Ukraine.

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Trump The War between Russia and Ukraine is a violent and terrible one that, with strong and proper U.S. and Ukrainian LEADERSHIP, would have NEVER HAPPENED.

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Why is the war everyone’s fault but Trump’s and Putin’s/Russia’s? This is only partially correct. The main instigator was Russia.

Trump’s attempts to lead have been erratic and long on window dressing, but way short of decisive action.

I find it incredible how he has completely botched this thing, and how he has made himself look like Putin’s stooge.

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I find it incredible how he has completely botched this thing

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He’s doing exactly what we want. Limited involvement and let the two parties figure it out. Not the United States problem to swoop in and save Ukraine.

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"Trump has completely botched this by not ending it"

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This is not what I posted.

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Would we ever accept a Russian military presence in Mexico?


We accepted a Russian military presence in Cuba.

Besides, there’s a big difference in a European/Asian nation in N America than a Western presence in Europe.

All of this is just cover for Russia anyway. There was no Western troops in Ukraine when Russia invaded; nor were there any when they launched the SO.

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Russia had absolutely zero problem with NATO setting up in Finland. Russia knows that NATO poses zero threat, except to its imperial ambitions.

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This is not what I posted.

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Then what has he botched, specifically?

In my estimation he hasn't solved what might legitimately be an unsolvable problem.