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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:13 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:13 am to
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thd Rusdians





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Necessity is the mother of invention. Ukraine survives the best way they can.



I think you underestimate the amount of logistics, coordination, and technology it would take to complete an operation like that in a hostile country. Its not about underestimating anyone, its about being realistic in regards to their capabilities.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:13 am to
Ukraine is very technically literate and already had the capacity to innovate. It's where at least 40% of scientific advancement in the USSR came from. It's where much of the USSR's industry was located. It has never been solely a breadbasket. Especially in the western part where Jewish skilled artisans immigrated to under Polish/Lithuanian rule, along with to Belorussia. They were invited by very Catholic Poland/Lithuanian.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:14 am to
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It's where at least 40% of scientific advancement in the USSR came from.


Do you have a legitimate source for that?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16276 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:20 am to
Igor Alexandroff who was a physics professor at both St. Petersburg and Kiev universities in the USSR as well as on the board which decided which scientific projects were funded.

You wouldn't know about him or any actual Soviet scientist anyway
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:21 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42853 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:22 am to
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I think you underestimate the amount of logistics, coordination, and technology it would take to complete an operation like that in a hostile country. It’s not about underestimating anyone, it’s about being realistic in regards to their capabilities.


After 9/11 I wouldn’t under estimate anybody.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8497 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:22 am to
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gor Alexandroff who was a physics professor at both St. Petersburg and Kiev universities in the USSR as well as on the board which decided which scientific projects were funded.

You wouldn't know about him or any actual Soviet scientist anyway


So I'm going to take it as a no on the legit source, you just made up the 40%. Good to know.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8497 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:23 am to
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After 9/11 I wouldn’t under estimate anybody.



That op is way more complex than hijacking a plane

Which, btw, almost never happen anymore since 9/11 because of reforms made on security.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:24 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16276 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:46 am to
Why is it that Volsquat posts about how he feels about something with no basis pre 2023 yet everyone else has to cite some source he approves of to be credible?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:54 am to
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That op is way more complex than hijacking a plane


Your opinion, but there were more than one plane, one pilot, 1 crew of hijacker’s.

Again, you aren’t giving Ukraine much credit here.

JMHO
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8497 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:54 am to
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Why is it that Volsquat posts about how he feels about something with no basis pre 2023 yet everyone else has to cite some source he approves of to be credible?



I genuinely wanted to see some proof of it. Sorry that I actually ended up exposing that you were completely making something up
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8497 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:55 am to
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Again, you aren’t giving Ukraine much credit here.



I don't think it should be controversial to say they probably had some help. Even help planning is help.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:09 am to
Ukrainian report

Ukrainian Post

Pokrovsk direction: The enemy has broken through to the Pokrovske coal mine north of Udachne and has partially secured its territory. This is not full control but enough to use the mine as a stronghold for further actions. Our FPV drones have already yielded results: part of the attacking group of swinehogs has been destroyed, but the fighting continues. The enemy does not stop and judging by the pace, is preparing to press the position and develop the offensive further.

Strategically, they have two logical vectors of development: The first is northward, towards the Pavlohrad–Pokrovsk highway. Advancing there will give the enemy a direct artery for supply and maneuver, as well as the ability to pressure approaches to Pokrovsk from the north. The second is westward, towards the border with Dnipropetrovsk region, where they can secure themselves to ensure a flank in case of our countermeasures. Both vectors are dangerous because they allow them either to openly advance along the highways or try to bypass the defense with a continuous deep line.

Also east of Kotlyne, the enemy took control of section No. 13 of the railway track. Control of this section allows them to start flanking maneuvers and creates a threat of encircling Pokrovsk from the west — a scenario in which the city will be under double pressure!"


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Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:09 am to
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Ukraine is very technically literate and already had the capacity to innovate. It's where at least 40% of scientific advancement in the USSR came from. It's where much of the USSR's industry was located.


Any updates on the top secret technology you were working on with them?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8497 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:14 am to
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Any updates on the top secret technology you were working on with them?



He already told us his made up technology failed. I'm sure he has another made up innovation coming.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27082 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:15 am to
The big thief doesn't trust the little ones.


What Keeps Putin Awake at Night? Veterans Returning From Ukraine

The Kremlin is increasingly concerned that the return of tens of thousands of veterans from the war in Ukraine—including many former prisoners—may pose a serious internal threat to Vladimir Putin’s regime.

According to the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine (SZRU) on October 7, Russian authorities anticipate that returning soldiers may become a destabilizing force, both politically and socially, particularly as they face reintegration into a society marked by low wages, economic uncertainty, and limited social support.

“According to the Kremlin’s estimates, veterans could become a catalyst for criminal and political destabilization capable of shaking the system built around Putin’s personal loyalty,” the SZRU said in a public statement.

Ukrainian intelligence draws a parallel to the 1990s, when Soviet veterans returning from the war in Afghanistan formed criminal and paramilitary groups that contributed to a surge in organized crime across Russia.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/what-keeps-putin-awake-at-night-veterans-returning-from-ukraine-12290
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42853 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:23 am to
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I don't think it should be controversial to say they probably had some help. Even help planning is help.


I know they had help, but I do not think they had any government help.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27082 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:24 am to
GROK on Ukraine # of F-16's.

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Current Status of F-16 Jets in Ukraine (as of October 8, 2025)Ukraine's F-16 fleet has grown significantly since the first deliveries in August 2024, primarily from the Netherlands and Denmark, with contributions from Norway and limited support from the U.S. for spare parts. Based on official announcements, defense reports, and timelines from donor countries, Ukraine currently operates approximately 60 F-16 fighter jets. This number accounts for deliveries through early October 2025, minus confirmed losses (at least 3 aircraft). Exact figures are often classified for operational security, but estimates converge around 55-65 operational jets.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:58 am to
I would not be suprised if Emergency meetings are being called in Ukraine. Breakthroughs are happening across the frontline.



"The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, due to breakthroughs by the Russian army, announced changes in the names of the operational directions of the front, effectively admitting the loss of extensive territories

The statement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine acknowledges that the names are changing due to "changes in the operational situation":

Seversk - Slavyansk

Toretsk - Kostiantynivka

Novopavlovsk-Oleksandrivka"

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