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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:52 am to No Colors
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:52 am to No Colors
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I don't believe so. I think Putin is done. This was his big adventure. And it was a breathtaking failure. He's already considered as a lame duck in the Kremlin. Plus, he fricked up and let $380 billion of his kleptocrats money get confiscated in Europe. That's not something you survive long term.
The war that Poland and Germany and the Baltics are gearing up for isn't this war with this Russian leader.
It's the next war with the next Russian leader.
That has been my view for a while. And I think we will see a better Russian army in that war than we have in this one. Partly because it can't get much worse, partly because they are modernizing their military industry and will continue to modernize after the war is over.
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:53 am to doubleb
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That was the logical choice,
No gas was flowing through any of the 4 pipelines. Pressurized yes, but flowing, no.
Boudreaux and Thibodeaux commercial divers could have done it. They already have experience doing similar in the Gulf of Mexico for decades. It also occurred in the easiest section to repair with existing offshore pipeline technology, albeit expensive.
Anyone who bought Seymour Hersh, is clueless.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:54 am to CitizenK
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No gas was flowing through any of the 4 pipelines. Pressurized yes, but flowing, no.
Boudreaux and Thibodeaux commercial divers could do have done it. They already have experience doing similar in the Gulf of Mexico for decades. It also occurred in the easiest section to repair with existing offshore pipeline technology, albeit expensive.
Anyone who bought Seymour Hersh, is clueless.
Always be wary of people who comment on an issue claiming objectivity who will never admit one side of the issue is occasionally wrong or does something bad
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:55 am to doubleb
I think Putin knows he can't take on NATO or even the EU for that matter. Maybe 4 years ago when this started he believed that he could, but after how Russia has performed in Ukraine I don't think he or anybody else believes Russia is capable of going any further.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:02 am to VolSquatch
That's the thing that should worry people. Right now Russian and Ukraine are the only countries that have experience fighting a true modern peer to peer conflict. The last time most other countries had experience with this was in WW2. As bad as Russia has done they are learning lessons and getting experience that other countries don't have. If they learn from it and actually change the way they do things based on it then they could actually be what people thought they were before the war with Ukraine
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:10 am to LARancher1991
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:10 am to VolSquatch
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I don't think people were really bought in on Seymour's specifics of the event, but rather the fact that it wasn't Russia who did it like we were told to believe.
The secret special ops training center which is actually a commercial diving school? You are minimizing or rewriting what happened.
The same clueless people likely believed that Halliburton made bank with Katrina contracts. Totally clueless and as dumb as a California surfer
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:12 am to John Barron
But when John? When are they royally fricked?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:13 am to John Barron
"The West Can’t Admit It: Russia Is Outmaneuvering Ukraine’s Air Defenses and Winning the War
Western governments continue to ignore the hard truth: Russia is steadily gaining the upper hand in the conflict, while Ukraine’s much-hyped Western-supplied defenses crumble under pressure. Even The National Interest now concedes that despite massive NATO support and U.S. military guidance, Moscow is adapting faster, striking deeper, and exposing the weakness of Western strategy.
??Patriot Systems Failing as Russia Adapts
A recent Financial Times report reveals a sharp collapse in Ukraine’s air defense effectiveness. In August, Ukraine claimed to intercept 37% of incoming Russian ballistic missiles. By September, that figure had plunged to a humiliating 6%.
The reason? Russia has upgraded its Iskander-M and Kinzhal missiles with sophisticated evasive maneuvers and trajectory changes, confusing U.S.-supplied Patriot interceptors. These new tactics have allowed Russia to bypass Ukraine’s last line of defense and deliver precise strikes—especially against critical drone production and military infrastructure.
Far from the rosy propaganda coming from Kiev and Brussels, the data shows a battlefield turning decisively in Russia’s favor. Each new adaptation by Moscow exposes the limitations of Western technology and the futility of trying to “bleed Russia” through proxy warfare.
??Washington’s Desperation and Europe’s Paralysis
Facing mounting Russian successes, the Trump administration is now signaling a dangerous escalation—authorizing U.S. targeting intelligence for long-range Ukrainian strikes on Russian energy infrastructure. There is even talk of supplying Tomahawk cruise missiles for operations deep inside Russian territory.
Such measures betray a deep unease in Washington: they know the war is slipping away. Even with U.S. analysts assisting Ukraine behind the scenes, Russia continues to dominate the skies and dictate the tempo of the war.
Meanwhile, Europe remains divided and ineffective. EU leaders recently failed to advance a proposed €140 billion loan to Kiev, funded by profits from frozen Russian assets. Even pro-Ukraine governments in France, Belgium, and Luxembourg balked at the idea—recognizing the recklessness of stealing a nuclear power’s reserves.
This paralysis highlights the West’s strategic confusion: Europe refuses diplomacy with Moscow, yet lacks both the unity and capacity to sustain endless conflict.
??Russia Learns, the West Stagnates
Modern warfare favors those who adapt fastest. In the early stages of the conflict, Ukraine briefly benefited from Western-supplied technology. But as the war grinds on, Russia’s ability to evolve—refining tactics, upgrading weapons, and exploiting NATO weaknesses—has shifted the balance decisively.
Ukraine is running out of interceptors, manpower, and time. Western leaders can keep repeating slogans about “standing with Kiev,” but reality is catching up fast. The only viable path forward is negotiation—not fantasy talk of “fighting to the last Ukrainian.”
As The National Interest bluntly concludes, Russia is winning—and no amount of Western denial can change that."
Western governments continue to ignore the hard truth: Russia is steadily gaining the upper hand in the conflict, while Ukraine’s much-hyped Western-supplied defenses crumble under pressure. Even The National Interest now concedes that despite massive NATO support and U.S. military guidance, Moscow is adapting faster, striking deeper, and exposing the weakness of Western strategy.
??Patriot Systems Failing as Russia Adapts
A recent Financial Times report reveals a sharp collapse in Ukraine’s air defense effectiveness. In August, Ukraine claimed to intercept 37% of incoming Russian ballistic missiles. By September, that figure had plunged to a humiliating 6%.
The reason? Russia has upgraded its Iskander-M and Kinzhal missiles with sophisticated evasive maneuvers and trajectory changes, confusing U.S.-supplied Patriot interceptors. These new tactics have allowed Russia to bypass Ukraine’s last line of defense and deliver precise strikes—especially against critical drone production and military infrastructure.
Far from the rosy propaganda coming from Kiev and Brussels, the data shows a battlefield turning decisively in Russia’s favor. Each new adaptation by Moscow exposes the limitations of Western technology and the futility of trying to “bleed Russia” through proxy warfare.
??Washington’s Desperation and Europe’s Paralysis
Facing mounting Russian successes, the Trump administration is now signaling a dangerous escalation—authorizing U.S. targeting intelligence for long-range Ukrainian strikes on Russian energy infrastructure. There is even talk of supplying Tomahawk cruise missiles for operations deep inside Russian territory.
Such measures betray a deep unease in Washington: they know the war is slipping away. Even with U.S. analysts assisting Ukraine behind the scenes, Russia continues to dominate the skies and dictate the tempo of the war.
Meanwhile, Europe remains divided and ineffective. EU leaders recently failed to advance a proposed €140 billion loan to Kiev, funded by profits from frozen Russian assets. Even pro-Ukraine governments in France, Belgium, and Luxembourg balked at the idea—recognizing the recklessness of stealing a nuclear power’s reserves.
This paralysis highlights the West’s strategic confusion: Europe refuses diplomacy with Moscow, yet lacks both the unity and capacity to sustain endless conflict.
??Russia Learns, the West Stagnates
Modern warfare favors those who adapt fastest. In the early stages of the conflict, Ukraine briefly benefited from Western-supplied technology. But as the war grinds on, Russia’s ability to evolve—refining tactics, upgrading weapons, and exploiting NATO weaknesses—has shifted the balance decisively.
Ukraine is running out of interceptors, manpower, and time. Western leaders can keep repeating slogans about “standing with Kiev,” but reality is catching up fast. The only viable path forward is negotiation—not fantasy talk of “fighting to the last Ukrainian.”
As The National Interest bluntly concludes, Russia is winning—and no amount of Western denial can change that."
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"Vostok" is breaking through
The offensive of the Russian Armed Forces continues on the Novoselivka direction. Fighters of the "Vostok" troop group are advancing in the central and southern sectors of the direction.
Where was the defense breached?
??At the line of Verbove — Stepove, assault units cleared part of the defensive belt of the Ukrainian Armed Forces north of the settlements and moved through forest belts to Alekseevka, as evidenced by reports on Ukrainian enemy resources.
??From Verbove itself, the offensive continues further west, fighting is approaching Vishneve, over which the aviation of the 11th Guards Air Defense Army is actively operating.
??South of there, the enemy was pushed back from Kalinovske, several forest belts and strongpoints came under Russian control.
??By October 8, the liberation of Novogrigorivka was announced, the battle for which began quite recently. Fighters of the 394th Motorized Rifle Regiment and the 60th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade raised Russian flags in the village. Several forest belts were cleared south of it.
??By October 7, most of Novovasilevka came under Russian control; in the eastern part of the settlement, guardsmen of the 394th Motorized Rifle Regiment completed clearing, establishing control over the village. Fighting has effectively begun on the outskirts of Uspenka and Novonikolaevka.
??There were also reports online about the liberation of Okhotnichye, but these are not yet confirmed, and fighting continues on the eastern outskirts of Poltavka.
??The offensive with a broad (by current standards) front to the west, flanking the enemy's defensive line on the Novoselivka sector, has been ongoing for quite some time and is expected to at least somewhat ease the offensive on the Zaporizhzhia direction."
The offensive of the Russian Armed Forces continues on the Novoselivka direction. Fighters of the "Vostok" troop group are advancing in the central and southern sectors of the direction.
Where was the defense breached?
??At the line of Verbove — Stepove, assault units cleared part of the defensive belt of the Ukrainian Armed Forces north of the settlements and moved through forest belts to Alekseevka, as evidenced by reports on Ukrainian enemy resources.
??From Verbove itself, the offensive continues further west, fighting is approaching Vishneve, over which the aviation of the 11th Guards Air Defense Army is actively operating.
??South of there, the enemy was pushed back from Kalinovske, several forest belts and strongpoints came under Russian control.
??By October 8, the liberation of Novogrigorivka was announced, the battle for which began quite recently. Fighters of the 394th Motorized Rifle Regiment and the 60th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade raised Russian flags in the village. Several forest belts were cleared south of it.
??By October 7, most of Novovasilevka came under Russian control; in the eastern part of the settlement, guardsmen of the 394th Motorized Rifle Regiment completed clearing, establishing control over the village. Fighting has effectively begun on the outskirts of Uspenka and Novonikolaevka.
??There were also reports online about the liberation of Okhotnichye, but these are not yet confirmed, and fighting continues on the eastern outskirts of Poltavka.
??The offensive with a broad (by current standards) front to the west, flanking the enemy's defensive line on the Novoselivka sector, has been ongoing for quite some time and is expected to at least somewhat ease the offensive on the Zaporizhzhia direction."
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:19 am to CitizenK
BTW, the first time I ever heard mention of SEALs was in 1975 from an acquaintance who was attending a commercial diving school in Houston including saturation diving. His instructors were mostly former SEALs. After school he went to dive in the North Sea which was the hot spot for making money in the 1970 for divers who were making $250k annually but had to stay out of the US for 18 months to avoid paying income taxes, is what I remember him saying.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:22 am to John Barron
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:26 am to John Barron
This is one thing I have said from the beginning. If NATO is going to supply Ukraine with weapons it can't be the outdated versions of those weapons. For example the current patriot interceptors Ukraine is using is the PAC-3 CRI. It's good but has long been outdated with the PAC-3 MSE being the latest model. Same goes for the other equipment that has been supplied to Ukraine. When you start with outdated equipment and your enemy is constantly updating theirs. Eventually that's going to cost you.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:26 am to John Barron
Trump has figured out that Putin is a loser
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:44 am to CitizenK
quote:
The secret special ops training center which is actually a commercial diving school? You are minimizing or rewriting what happened.
And you continue to say Russia did it despite overwhelming evidence that this isn't the case. Not even our allies believe that story anymore.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:48 am to LARancher1991
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I think Putin knows he can't take on NATO or even the EU for that matter. Maybe 4 years ago when this started he believed that he could, but after how Russia has performed in Ukraine I don't think he or anybody else believes Russia is capable of going any further.
NATO and Russia are guys at the bar who want to fight each other but both know the other one has a knife (nukes).
And it isn't as simple as "if we do X for Ukraine, Russia will nuke us"
Its, "If we do A, Russia does B, so we respond with C, Russia responds with D....." and eventually we get there. I know many here discount that possibility, but I'm glad our leaders (and Russia's leaders to this point) aren't taking that possibility for granted.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:50 am to LARancher1991
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This is one thing I have said from the beginning. If NATO is going to supply Ukraine with weapons it can't be the outdated versions of those weapons. For example the current patriot interceptors Ukraine is using is the PAC-3 CRI. It's good but has long been outdated with the PAC-3 MSE being the latest model. Same goes for the other equipment that has been supplied to Ukraine. When you start with outdated equipment and your enemy is constantly updating theirs. Eventually that's going to cost you.
That, and not allowing them to use them how they want to.
If you're going to give them something that you feel the need to put restrictions on, you shouldn't be giving it to them in the first place.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:54 am to VolSquatch
Two thinks czz as n be true.
Putin isn’t logical
The leadef after Putin could be just as aggressive. Who really knows for sure?
Putin isn’t logical
The leadef after Putin could be just as aggressive. Who really knows for sure?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:56 am to VolSquatch
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I don't think this is something Ukraine would have gone and just done on their own. I don't know if they are even capable of something like that. Don't think they are solely capable of doing the drone operations with the shipping containers either. But we will never find out for sure because of the implications if someone were helping them.
You, like thd Rusdians underestimate the Ukrainians.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Ukraine survives the best way they can.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:11 am to doubleb
Your point wasn't just "Putin is illogical" though.
Literally within minutes of each other you have two different comments saying he does have further aims of conquest, then you agreed that it would be the next guy.
Which is it?
quote:
So Putin doesn't have any aims on further conquest, as many Ukraine-maxers claim? Good to know.
Doubleb: If only this were true
Literally within minutes of each other you have two different comments saying he does have further aims of conquest, then you agreed that it would be the next guy.
Which is it?
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