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Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:56 pm to
Yea, are you saying Russia is engaging in a War of Attrition on purpose? If so they are even dumber than I thought. Nobody purposely fights a War of Attrition. They occur when one side even though they have the larger force cannot significantly defeat the other on the battlefield. It's not a military strategy it's something that a conflict develops into.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:56 pm to
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can't humor
Can't humor?!?

Are you now trying to turn a noun into a verb?? That would be like me telling you, "You can't Lawn Boy."

That's embarrassing...


English as a second language does things like that.

I know having a Korean wife. Makes for a good comedy routine sometimes.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Patience.

If the Chinese have the longest term of forward planning in the world - and they do;

And if they want the land that was taken from them by the Russians in the 18th and 19th Centuries - and they do;

And if they need fresh water for northern China - and they do;

And if they want all the other resources stolen from them by the Russians - and they do;

And if the Chinese make bank from their arms trade with Moscow - and they do;

then it would make sense that the Chinese wait and take their land back from a completely exhausted and defeated Russia - and it does.

Russia's not there quite yet, thus the continued Chinese support. But when this war is over with, there will numerous name changes in Siberia.



Nothing that you have predicted about this war has came through. You are as bad at prognostication as General Bill was before he went awol.

Still waiting on those Taurus missiles. How long have you predicted the collapse of the Russian economy? How many times have you predicted the attack/invasion of Nato by Russia?

Nada Zilch.

This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135122 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Ukraine has went
...has gone...not has "went."

You non-native (or ignorant) English speakers are annoying.

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from a pre war population of 45 million to currently 25-28 million.
That's already been proven to be another lie by you.

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Not to mention losing 25% of their territory
Another lie. It's less than 20%. In fact, Russia occupies less of Ukraine's recognized territory now than it did one month after Russia started its invasion in 2022.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Yea, are you saying Russia is engaging in a War of Attrition on purpose?


This is the type of quality of posters in this thread. It has been known for years that Russia was waging a War of Attrition. Meanwhile they have been getting an extra 125,000 soldiers conscripted twice a year that are not fighting in Ukraine yet. Once Ukraine is fully exhausted and on the verge of collapse Russia will start to use the millions of Soldiers and Equipment they have been building up for the last 4 years


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Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:18 pm to
I'm not denying they are engaging in a War of Attrition but to say that they are doing it on purpose is idiotic. They have engaged in it because they have to and it is their only option to achieve victory. If you are saying that they are doing it on purpose then you are agreeing that the Russian military is shite and their commanders don't know the first thing about fighting a war. No military is going to purposely waste lives and equipment if they don't have to.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:20 pm to



Another non news event according the the wizard of technology and spammer of hundreds of boring friend stories.

Macron will roll out a leftist/socialist next and all of those proposed cuts to social welfare will disappear. Kiss that 5% from the frogs goodbye Nato. Can anyone say bailout?

Hey Cope. Which economy will crash first: France or Russia?

You know it is bad when the drunk Medevev can dunk on you.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:23 pm to
Also Glenn Diesen is known for sharing Russian propaganda and is a member of a pro Russian political party. At least try to hide the bias.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135122 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:24 pm to
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At least try to hide the bias.
He stopped doing that when he returned from ban land.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:26 pm to
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They have engaged in it because they have to and it is their only option to achieve victory. 


Incorrect. They are not doing it because they have to. They are doing it because it is the smart thing to do instead of storming the front lines with millions of more soldiers and getting half them killed to gain territory quickly. Instead they are grinding Ukraine down until they are exhausted and then they will send in a million more troops and not have massive casualties. It is the prudent and smart thing to do.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2328 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:33 pm to
So what you are saying is that Russian has purposely sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives and thousands of pieces of equipment over 4 years in order to not sacrifice hundreds of thousands of live and thousands of pieces of equipment in year 5? When in reality they could've ended the war a lot sooner if they would have used their full strength? Even my cousin with down syndrome would call that retarded.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Also Glenn Diesen is known for sharing Russian propaganda


Incorrect. Just because he is not a Globalist Neocon Shill doesn't make him a Russian Propagandist. I will listen to him and John J. Mearsheimer (who has been 100% right about his predictions regarding Russia/Ukraine going back years) who recommended his book. You NAFO trolls are all the same....Anyone who doesn't adhere to the Globalist Neocon Warmongers talking points is a Russian Propagandist Do you know how stupid and uneducated you sound? It's a sure fire way to Scream...

"I have no argument and I am very dumb and uneducated on the topic"

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Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:41 pm to
Dude has been a regular on RT (a Russian state controlled news network), wrote his master thesis on Mendev, is the editor for a Russian backed journal, and has been paid by a Putin backed foundation on multiple occasions. But yea chief he's totally not biased.
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Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:41 pm to
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Incorrect. They are not doing it because they have to. They are doing it because it is the smart thing to do instead of storming the front lines with millions of more soldiers and getting half them killed to gain territory quickly. Instead they are grinding Ukraine down until they are exhausted and then they will send in a million more troops and not have massive casualties. It is the prudent and smart thing to do.


L
. Instead of rushing prepared defenses with 100,000 soldiers to gain a 1000 sq Km in two months and getting 50,000 casualties; Russia is playing it smart.

They probe for weak spots looking for an advantage and gain 90 sq Km a week and incur 7,000 casualties a week.



Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:50 pm to
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So what you are saying is that Russian has purposely sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives and thousands of pieces of equipment over 4 years in order to not sacrifice hundreds of thousands of live and thousands of pieces of equipment in year 5? When in reality they could've ended the war a lot sooner if they would have used their full strength? 


You are not making any sense. Russia has lost between 150k-200k soldiers the last 4 years (not the made up fairy tale 1 million that Ukraine falsely claims) but you think it would have been better to storm the frontlines with a million more troops and lose another 500k soldiers to gain territory quickly? The smart and prudent thing to do is wear out the Ukrainian Military and Soldiers like is currently happening then you commit fresh soldiers to the battle when Ukraine has been exhausted and decimated. You save alot of lives using that method. Russia is not worried how long this takes, they will grind Ukraine into the ground and then send in 1 million plus fresh soldiers that have been training for the past 4 years
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2328 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:58 pm to
Russians has lost more than 200k troops. Maybe not the million Ukraine claims but it is over 500k plus the thousands of pieces of equipment they have lost. You don't save more lives by doing that. It's exactly the opposite. If you think allowing Ukraine to build up defenses and turn this conflict into trench warfare instead of attacking in force from the beginning and making this a war of mobility which would allow armored units to operate more effectively is saving lives, then you are dumber than I thought. Guess Russia gave up all that land in Ukraine's first counter offensive on purpose too huh?
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:10 pm to
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You save alot of lives using that method.


This the first time I've heard prosecuting war of attrition be considered a strategy to save a lot of lives.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:25 pm to
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You don't save more lives by doing that. It's exactly the opposite.


Incorrect. When you have the advantage in artillery and soldiers, grinding down Ukraine’s Military makes it alot easier with less casualties than it does attacking them with full force before Ukraine is grinded down. Let me educate you


In a war of attrition, the strategy of "grinding down" an opponent involves prolonged, incremental pressure to deplete their resources, manpower, and will to fight, rather than seeking quick decisive victories through large-scale maneuvers. For Russia in the context of the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, this approach—often characterized by artillery dominance, localized advances, and forcing the enemy into costly defensive or reactive positions—offers several strategic benefits before committing a large reserve force (such as the 1 million fresh troops, which aligns with discussions of Russia's mobilization potential. These benefits are drawn from military analyses and expert commentary on the conflict's dynamics as of October 2025.

1. Depletion of Ukrainian Manpower and Combat Effectiveness

Russia's sustained attrition tactics exploit its advantages in population size and force generation, wearing down Ukraine's smaller, aid-dependent military without overcommitting its own frontline units. By maintaining pressure across multiple sectors (e.g., Donbas and Kharkiv regions), Russia forces Ukraine to spread thin, leading to higher Ukrainian casualties and recruitment challenges. This creates an asymmetry where Russia can replace losses more readily through conscription and reserves, while Ukraine faces shortages in experienced troops and relies on forced mobilization. For instance, Russia's ability to surge infantry into weak points accelerates Ukrainian attrition, as Ukraine cannot easily withdraw or economize forces without ceding territory.

This grinding process reduces Ukraine's overall warfighting capacity, making a later Russian offensive against weakened defenses more likely to succeed with minimal resistance.

2. Preservation of Russian Reserves and Minimization of Own Losses

By focusing on artillery barrages, drone strikes, and small-unit probes rather than mass assaults, Russia preserves its fresh troops for a potential decisive phase. This "thrifty" approach turns attrition into a net gain, allowing Russia to inflict disproportionate casualties (reported ratios often favor Russia due to superior firepower) while building up industrial output for shells, vehicles, and equipment.

In practical terms, Russia avoids costly human-wave attacks, using ranged weapons to "grind" Ukrainian positions slowly but safely. This strategy values Russian lives and resources, buying time to mobilize and train larger forces (Russia has reportedly amassed up to 690,000 troops in theater without fully deploying them).

Committing 1 million fresh troops prematurely could expose them to intact Ukrainian defenses, drones, and anti-personnel munitions, leading to unnecessary losses; attrition first erodes these threats.


3. Economic and Industrial Superiority Exploitation

Attrition wars are ultimately won by the side with stronger industrial mobilization and economic resilience.

Russia's strategy leverages its ramped-up production (e.g., outproducing NATO in artillery shells) to sustain prolonged bombardment, forcing Ukraine to burn through limited Western-supplied munitions and vehicles.

This depletes not just Ukraine but indirectly strains NATO's stockpiles and political will, as aid becomes increasingly costly and debated in donor countries. An unintended benefit is the broader attrition on NATO's capabilities, including munitions and economic pressure on the EU, without Russia needing to escalate directly.

By grinding down Ukraine first, Russia positions itself to overwhelm with fresh troops once Western support wanes or Ukrainian logistics collapse, turning the conflict into a contest Russia can outlast.


4. Psychological and Political Pressure

The slow grind erodes Ukrainian morale, public support, and international backing by creating a sense of inevitability. Ukraine's inability to launch successful counteroffensives (as seen in 2023-2024 failures) amplifies this, while Russia's incremental gains (e.g., capturing key towns) demonstrate progress without overextension.

This forces Ukraine into reactive, high-cost decisions, such as holding indefensible lines or expending reserves prematurely, which further accelerates their decline. For Russia, this buys domestic political stability—avoiding mass casualties early on maintains public tolerance—before a major push could deliver a "victory" narrative.


5. Mitigation of Technological and Tactical Counters

While Ukraine has adapted with drones and asymmetric tactics to offset manpower shortages, Russia's attrition phase allows time to counter these (e.g., through electronic warfare and mass drone production). Grinding down Ukrainian drone operators, command structures, and supply lines reduces the effectiveness of such innovations, clearing the path for a large-scale armored or infantry commitment.

Historically, this mirrors how prolonged attrition sets up maneuver warfare: once the enemy is weakened, breakthroughs become feasible with lower risk.

Russia has used this to its advantage by waiting for Ukrainian offensives to fizzle, then advancing.Overall, this strategy aligns with Russia's doctrinal emphasis on firepower over speed, turning demographic and industrial edges into decisive factors.









This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:50 pm to
Ukrainian forces fully control Fedorivka in Siversk sector – military spokesman

Reports claiming that Russian troops have occupied the village of Fedorivka in the Siversk sector are false.

Colonel Dmytro Zaporozhets, spokesperson for the 11th Army Corps of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, stated this in a comment to an Ukrinform correspondent.

Asked whether he could confirm or deny reports of Russian forces occupying Fedorivka, Zaporozhets said: "This is not true. In this sector we have one of our strongest brigades, which does not allow such incidents to happen."

According to him, on October 3 a group of four Russian servicemen was detected in Fedorivka. They were moving with their flag to stage another propaganda scene for Kremlin-controlled media. One was killed, while the others tried to hide in a shelter, which was destroyed along with its occupants.

"There is no confirmation that they survived. There was no further movement. And there is no confirmation that they were eliminated either, because the structure they hid in most likely buried them," Zaporozhets said.

He added that Russian troops attempt to break into the village roughly once a week. However, thanks to the effective work of Ukrainian combat units, these attempts are consistently thwarted and the Russians suffer losses.

"There can be no talk of the enemy having secured a foothold or even trying to hold ground in this area. The settlement remains fully under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces," the spokesman said.

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