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re: Largest plastic surgeon’s org. (now the AMA) changes stance on youth gender-affirming care

Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:16 am to
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28537 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:16 am to
Most states have laws mandating harsh sentences for maiming and mutilation. Every piece of shite involved in these horrors needs to be charged under those laws regardless of the AMA's position. The AMA has no legal standing to suspend laws regarding the mutilation of children. They deserve to hang while knowing that they are leaving their families destitute.
Posted by SWOK Sooner
Member since Dec 2019
1295 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:22 am to
History will look back at this as this sickest fad in world history
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8408 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:01 am to
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1) They will deny they ever "really" recommended sterilizing surgeries on minors and that it was always up to doctor judgment.
2) As docs are hit with millions in judgments for surgeries *and* puberty blockers, they will officially drop their sex-rejecting hormones recommendation too.
3) When pressed on 2 they will answer ala 1.
4) Only when most of the culprits are retired or dead will the medical associations admit that it was an unscientific, immoral, heinous, harm inflicted on children.
5) They will repeat the entire cycle again on some other medical fad while saying "shut up and trust us, we're the experts, we're the science."
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:38 am to
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Most states have laws mandating harsh sentences for maiming and mutilation. Every piece of shite involved in these horrors needs to be charged under those laws regardless of the AMA's position. The AMA has no legal standing to suspend laws regarding the mutilation of children. They deserve to hang while knowing that they are leaving their families destitute.

This level of hyperbolic discourse isn't really necessary. Other ways to get this same point across without sounding ridiculous.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23318 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:44 am to
In a strict sense you’re correct.

I was speaking in a general way to try to avoid having to list all of the different entities involved in legal, medical and other professional credentialing processes.

All or at least many of them went down a path of politicization over the past two decades and need to be unwound from the non competency related criteria they’ve incorporated into their processes.

And the AMA itself does play a role in credentialing in that the collect data on physicians and provide guidelines and standards which are often incorporated into state processes and educational training or at least that was my understanding although I’m by no means an expert on that process specifically.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4011 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:53 am to
Stop calling it "gender-affirming" and start calling it "sex-denying" which is both more accurate and more persuasive.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:03 pm to
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All or at least many of them went down a path of politicization over the past two decades and need to be unwound from the non competency related criteria they’ve incorporated into their processes.

I understand your point, but I don't think this is much of a concern when it comes to the actual credentialing process. I can only speak for my board, but the criteria has been stable for years, and there is no "political" component. Part 1 is a long arse test of just specialty specific information, and Part 2 is a review of 6 months of cases.

Now has it infiltrated plastics, urology, GYN, etc boards? Not sure, would have to ask one of them.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23318 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:12 pm to
What I see is DEI forcing admissions practices in college for doctors and other professionals because the AAMC and others are helping to push for it. Hopefully that’s starting to change.

I see politics and lobbying influencing provider practices from the top down as the FDA (which itself was politicized) drives guidelines and reimbursement at least based on the feedback I’ve gotten from friend in that field.

Then you have equity groups buying out practices and implementing guidelines for care based on the agendas of their boards which themselves are or were heavily politicized.

But I’m interested to hear your perspective if you think those concerns are overblown based on your experiences.

I know multiple practitioners who were forced from larger practices or who had to leave hospital groups to practice as they saw fit during and just after Covid which drives my perspective and have huge concerns about the data around who is being accepted to schools in various areas nationally.

I wouldn’t be accepted to my top 10 graduate school today and I’m not sure my children will have a chance either purely due to race and/or sex unless something changes.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128779 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:13 pm to
But what did this change?

I was told everyone was making their own decisions? No children were involved? That wasn’t true?
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5966 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:13 pm to
Seems like things change once there is a $2,000,000 judgment handed down to one of their victims
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131565 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:13 pm to
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Firstly, F the AMA.


I dont know a physician that is an AMA member

Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4123 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:57 pm to
All of the doctors', that did this shite, malpractice insurance just got cancelled. That's what happened.
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