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re: LA officials OK new charter 4 dyslexic students in Jefferson Parish despite some concerns
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:12 pm to Flats
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:12 pm to Flats
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taking one anecdote and pretending its universal. Florida law, for example (unless it's changed) specifically prohibits charter schools from academic gate keeping. They're welcome to target LOW performing kids and give them preference but not high performing. Our empty seats are determined by lottery.
Do you realize you’re taking one anecdote (your experience with one school in one state) and pretending it’s universal?
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:14 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you realize you’re taking one anecdote (your experience with one school in one state) and pretending it’s universal?
No, I'm not. I've yet to attempt to tell you about the charter schools you have experience with because I don't know anything about them. What I've repeatedly said is that you keep making general statements about all charters that are bullshite. Maybe they're true about the 2-3 you dealt with but that doesn't extrapolate.
Hell, you accused me of being a grifter because I was a parent volunteer at one.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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say that, to point out no system can be all-things to all kids. The public 1° system we had would not have served either of our kids well. But by HS, for one, it was serviceable.
My biggest hang up with charters in red states is how they are promoted as an easy, perfect solution to complex problems in public education.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:16 pm to 4cubbies
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My biggest hang up with charters in red states
There it is.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:16 pm to 4cubbies
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Doing better in some areas and worst in others is the definition of inconsistent results.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:17 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Is that a problem?
Charter schools have the ability to select their students, unlike traditional schools.
It sounds like a great way to match school-and-needs to me.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:17 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you realize you’re taking one anecdote (your experience with one school in one state) and pretending it’s universal?
You meant to say all charter schools in Florida.
You can add all charter schools in Missouri to that list. You can add Iowa to that list. Also Wisconsin. We can keep adding to that list.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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Charter schools have the ability to select their students, unlike traditional schools.
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Is that a problem?
It's not even true.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:18 pm to Flats
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You're talking out of your arse again, taking one anecdote and pretending its universal. Florida law, for example (unless it's changed) specifically prohibits charter schools from academic gate keeping.
Same with Arizona.
Charter schools may limit admission to pupils within a given age group or grade level, but cannot “limit admission based on ethnicity, national origin, gender, income level, disabling condition, or proficiency in the English language, or athletic ability.” [A.R.S. § 15-184(F)]
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:18 pm to NC_Tigah
You’ve never heard of the charter school draft?
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:20 pm to roadGator
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You’ve never heard of the charter school draft?
Ours is audited by a third party accounting firm just to keep the district chuds from bitching.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:22 pm to David_DJS
Chat - can they take discipline referrals into account when deciding admission?
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:22 pm to 4cubbies
Hush.
Sandwiches aren’t going to make themselves.
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Evidence for Charter School Success Higher Test Scores: Reports from the Florida Department of Education have found that Florida charter school students, especially minority students, scored higher than their traditional public school peers on a range of standardized tests. Increased Learning Gains: A Center for Research on Education Outcomes (CREDO) study indicated that charter school students made significant learning gains in reading and math, equivalent to several extra days of learning per year compared to their traditional public school counterparts. Autonomy and Innovation: Charter schools have more freedom to design innovative curricula and educational strategies, which can lead to higher academic performance in areas like reading and math.
Sandwiches aren’t going to make themselves.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:23 pm to Flats
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There it is.
Yeah, the super duper educator among us isn't swayed by charter schools teaching kids better. She just hates how charter schools are promoted in red states.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:24 pm to David_DJS
“It’s going to hollow out our monopolistic control over education!!”
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:26 pm to the808bass
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Chat - can they take discipline referrals into account when deciding admission?
I think in AZ they can. Public schools can take expulsions elsewhere into account, also.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:27 pm to David_DJS
Pretty sure they can in Missouri as well.
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:29 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Nothing is perfect ... obviously. As I said, what worked well for one of ours at one point, failed miserably at another. Choice (and a change) was key. Lower or Working Class kids in most scenarios often do not have the advantage of choice. As much as possible, they should have choice. Charters come much closer to that offering than standard public school arrangements.
My biggest hang up with charters in red states is how they are promoted as an easy, perfect solution to complex problems in public education.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:31 pm to David_DJS
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She just hates how charter schools are promoted in red states.
I doubt many blue states have strong charter programs (I could be wrong), but how do they market themselves? "Hey, we might be vaguely better than your local school, but we're not really sure. You'll just have to find out."
Posted on 8/22/25 at 5:39 pm to 4cubbies
I can promise you somebody's bro in law stands to make money on the construction or some other way through this pathetic money grab.
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