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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:04 am to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24787 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:04 am to
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You can't hold him the only one responsible for disobeying the curfew.


There was no curfew. Just like he didn't buy the gun illegally or cross state lines with the gun.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:06 am
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:05 am to
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Because we are no longer a nation of laws. We are now a nation of mob rule.


If so who has the numbers, the skills & weaponry?

Which side is winning?

Why?
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:05 am to
I’m cynical and a pessimist about this trial.

It’s going to be a huge travesty and Kyle is going to get totally screwed over.

They’re going to find him guilty of something. Maybe even everything. And the Dem judge is going to let it happen, but probably give less than the minimum sentence, and then toss it to appeals court.

The jury is scared, and knowing the cheating arse Left, they and/or their families have probably been threatened/blackmailed/extorted/bribed/etc., and the judge is worried about losing his status among his Dem pals, the MSM, and tarnishing his legacy.

I really hope I’m wrong, but no way this should have taken this long to deliberate if honesty and actual justice were involved.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27577 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:05 am to
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No one here gives a shite.

You're such a predictable idiot. Don't ever change.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:07 am to
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Dem judge
Unless you looked up his voting record or something, nothing has indicated he is a Dem. He simply cares too much about what the media thinks of him and is making very poor judgement calls.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:08 am to
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True. Still. Not bad shooting under duress.

The poise and discipline he displayed with that gun, as a 17 year old kid under attack from older hardened criminals in what had to be a very frightening ordeal, was nothing short of remarkable.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154716 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:08 am to
Telling the truth is idiocy to the demented.


Go figure.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:11 am to
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but I expect anyone who does leave their him armed to exercise common sense, and I don't think Rittenhouse did.

Thoughts?


You're a dumbass. The facts of the case show that Kyle had more common sense than most adults. And that's before we even consider that "exercise common sense" has frick all to do with this trial. That's irrelevant BS the prosecution is hoping factors into the jury's decision.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6962 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:13 am to
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If this is looking like a hung Jury then I expect this trial will take another wild twist. The judge is keeping the alternates jurors in the deliberations and I suspect the he could be aware of possible juror "activism" taking place.

A retrial does not work in the favor of anyone in this case. The prosecution will have new problems in a second trial because by then the Zaminiski's and jump kick man would be available for witness testimoney. The prosecution kept them out of this trial for a reason.

The defense has to go through more time and expenses. Rittenhouse's life get put on hold longer.

The city of Kenosha has to continue to battle with the circus of protesters that this case brings with it.

I think the Judge takes an unprecedented effort to make sure this does not end with a hung jury. The prosecution will not raise any issue with any decision the Judge makes to make sure it not a hung jury.


The defense's actions make me wonder what the long game here is. They get another trial (not sure they'll be the next trial's lawyers albeit), they know no jury selected in the world will convict. Meanwhile, Kyle spends more of his time and life on this case, but it builds up the settlement money from the media and Kenosha. Allows the prosecutors more rope to make the eventual hanging even that much more solid.

Just spitballing here. No clue if any of that is logical or not.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:13 am to
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TBoy


Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:16 am to
If there is a mistrial without prejudice, could Kyle go the route of Sandmann and sue all the media outlets for defamation in the meantime while waiting for a retrial?
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:17 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27577 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:17 am to
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Telling the truth is idiocy to the demented.

You're neither telling truth or talking about the case. You're just trying to pick an online argument. Essentially, you are trying to make it about you. That's what you always do. That's what idiots always do.

Do you have any comments about jury deliberation? My comment was that I'm surprised it's taking this long. The prosecution was shite.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80053 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:19 am to
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If there is a mistrial without prejudice, could Kyle go the route of Sandmann and sue all the media outlets for defamation in the meantime while waiting for a retrial?


His defmation case would be much stronger if hes acquitted.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62750 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:20 am to
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If there is a hung jury won't there be a re-trial? I assume the POS prosecution would definitely go for that.


The prosecutor had to basically put his neck on the line for disbarment just to make a case. Who would want to bring this back to trial and put their livelihoods on the line to retry this?
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6962 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:21 am to
You're underestimating Binger and Fatlock's incompetence.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62750 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:22 am to
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The prosecution was shite.


It was the best possible prosecution this case could have. The only way to even paint any doubt about the self defense portion of this case was to lie, and that's what they did. You aren't going to get a "better" prosecution of this case than that.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:22 am to
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They will NOT walk out of the deliberation room without a conviction...of some sort. Likely Negligent Homicide, or anything that will pacify the heathen outside the courtroom.

No. fricking. Way.

This is a jury of likely working class Kenosha residents who were likely disgusted by what happened to their city. They’ve seen the video of clear self-defense too. No fricking way will twelve of them vote to convict on negligent homicide. That’s pure lunacy.

The holdouts are likely a couple of intimidated women who will cower to the mob.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24787 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:24 am to
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convict on negligent homicide


Can they do this if he is not charged with it? I agree that they will never get 12 to agree on this.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:24 am to
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His defmation case would be much stronger if hes acquitted.
True - of course the argument if he's not acquitted this go-round could be the media influenced the trial with the defamation.

I don't know. I'm not a lawyer and don't know what I'm talking about, but would love to see it...
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:24 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62750 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:24 am to
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No. fricking. Way.

This is a jury of likely working class Kenosha residents who were likely disgusted by what happened to their city. They’ve seen the video of clear self-defense too. No fricking way will twelve of them vote to convict on negligent homicide. That’s pure lunacy.

The holdouts are likely a couple of intimidated women who will cower to the mob.


Hung jury should be the best possible case the prosecution could hope for. I find it hard to believe that 12 people could actually agree that he is guilty of ANYTHING. I'd automatically assume jury intimidation.
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