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re: Kobach's claim of voter fraud in New Hampshire factually incorrect

Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123869 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
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they concluded the vast majority of people who voted were most likely out of state college students.
In other words, even Public Radio's socialist propagandists concluded there were illegal votes cast.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:17 pm to
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I don't trust New Hampshire Public Radio. Since when are they an investigative body?? And all public radio is left wing. They won't be objective.


Then, You can look at the raw data here from the New Hampshire Secratary of State like they did:

LINK

If you look at the stats, the 3 biggest counties with out of state voters are Keene (Keene State College and Antioch University), Hanover (Darthmouth), Durham (Univeristy of New Hampshire). This list even shows what state the out of state voters come from. So if they're being bussed from out of state it shouldn't be too hard to find out from where. It looks like the vast majority would've come from Massachusetts.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:19 pm to
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In other words, even Public Radio's socialist propagandists concluded there were illegal votes cast.


I don't know how you can conclude that unless you really really want to belive it, but the article clearly stated that
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The state makes clear that out-of-state students attending college in New Hampshire are allowed to vote here, as long as they aren’t also voting in another state.


So no, they did not conclude that there were illegal votes cast.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3895 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:10 pm to
Kris Kobach is one of the worst people in America. He's a modern day Joseph McCarthy.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:42 am to
They cant just admit the original whine and td posts were unfounded.

Now they are complaining about the facts.

There was no big voter fraud after all in nh by dems.

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10970 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 7:17 am to
Meet me at a Dunks here in NH and I'll explain how you don't know jack shite about what went on here during the election...
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:12 am to
bottom line what difference did it make.

what's the difference kelly ayotte and a democrat.

good riddance we can try to win the seat back in six years with a real republican instead of a uniparty cuck.

she ran as a tea patier and couldn't wait to turn cuckstablishment.

good for her now she's unemployed. well except her job on the board of director's for BAE



Kelly Ayotte joins defense contractor's board of directors

Defense contractor BAE Systems has appointed former Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) to its board of directors for a three-year term, starting this month.

hooray endless wars for ever that we fight to draws!

MERICA!

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34891 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:56 am to
Tamper proof voter ID puts an end to all the obfuscation and potential for fraud. Stack the Court...push it through...honest elections. Of course, that is assuming that people believe that only Citizens should be allowed to vote. The Dems don't believe that. So....
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123869 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 10:07 am to
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So no, they did not conclude that there were illegal votes cast.

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NHPR found that out-of-state IDs were mostly used in areas surrounding college campuses
Again NHPR is agenda driven. If NHPR could have shown out-of-state IDs were solely used by college students, that is exactly what they would have done.

They didn't!

Instead they inanely insist "out-of-state IDs were mostly used in areas surrounding college campuses." The insinuation being, geographic surrounds must mean those votes were cast by college students.

Manchester, Nashua, Concord, Plymouth, Durham, Keene, Merrimack, New London, Hanover, Rindge, Henniker, Warner, Goffstown, etc are "areas surrounding college campuses". They are also happen to be population centers. So if such fraud were to be undertaken, one would expect it to occur at those locations.

In accordance with the old saying "where there is a will, there is a way," even NHPR acknowledges there was an easy and obvious way to vote fraudulently. So to conclude illegal voting did not take place necessitates belief that there simply was no will to throw New Hampshire. If you believe that, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by SevenLinesofPine
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
746 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 10:20 am to
I'm not even gonna read thatfirst off it's Vox, second of it involves democrats it's fraud end of story
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 3:48 pm to
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As New Hampshire Public Radio reported


Obviously unbiased.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 7:46 pm to
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So to conclude illegal voting did not take place necessitates belief that there simply was no will to throw New Hampshire. If you believe that, I don't know what to tell you.


So if out of state voters voted illegal, then it is incumbent on the Secretary of State to prove it. But this was his response
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“We are not aware of any evidence to support a claim that busloads of out of state residents come to New Hampshire to vote illegally,” Deputy Secretary of State Dave Scanlan said Monday. “Perceptions are important, and the concern with these repeated statements from the current administration is the image citizens from other states may have of the elections conducted in New Hampshire.”


So the Kobach's claim of out state people coming in to vote illegally is up to Kris Kobach to prove, but right now he has no evidence, he's just blowing smoke out of his arse.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 7:48 pm to
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Obviously unbiased.


As I said before the raw data is there for anybody to look at. If you want to disagree saying that their interpretation of their conclusions are incorrect, then that's for you to do.

The Raw Data
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 7:50 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 9/10/17 at 11:22 pm to
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ctalati32

uh, the voter fraud comes from THE OTHER STATE that they voted in, which does not have the same law as NH

You didn't put a lot of thought into your bashing of Kobach, did you?

tsk, tsk
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12094 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:57 am to
So, all of these "domiciled" students from out of state ... since NH lets them vote in-state (which is what some on this board are claiming), do they only get charged in-state fees at their college?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123869 posts
Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:19 am to
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then it is incumbent on the Secretary of State to prove it. But this was his response
The Secretary of State is a dyed in the wool partisan Democrat. Why in hell do you think he'd want to undercut his party?
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