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re: Kobach's claim of voter fraud in New Hampshire factually incorrect
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:31 am to Jack Bauers HnK
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:31 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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So they can be domiciled in New Hampshire and still a resident of another state? How does that prevent them voting in both states?
The law? You can't vote twice in the same election.
Don't blame me for shitty laws. But Kobach's claims are wrong. This does not in and of itself prove voter fraud.
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:31 am to ctalati32
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I missed this earlier.
But yet you chastised me for my reading comprehension.
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Work on your reading comprehension and don't attack me on what you thought I said
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:32 am to Homesick Tiger
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I missed this earlier.
But yet you chastised me for my reading comprehension.
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Work on your reading comprehension and don't attack me on what you thought I said
You made up a claim I never made.
I missed one of your questions you asked
not the same thing
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:36 am to ctalati32
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You made up a claim I never made.
Show me.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:39 am to Homesick Tiger
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You made up a claim I never made.
Show me.
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re: Kobach's claim of voter fraud in New Hampshire factually incorrectPosted on 9/9/17 at 9:47 am to ctalati32
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It is not voter fraud.
That doesn't answer my question and yes, if they do vote twice in the same national election that is fraud.
I never claimed that voting twice in the same national election wasn't fraud. I only said that Kobach's claim that people who voted in NH who didn't register a car or get a state ID wasn't evidence of voter fraud.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:44 am to ctalati32
I would say in essecence they are being fraudulent by voting in a place they have shown intent to not call their primary residence. The whole language of domicile vs resident seems stupid and I would say the only argument leads to fraud.
So I would not say the rule to obtain those things directly means fraud; however, not doing those things while claiming primary residence in the state seems to show an intent to defraud the election system.
So I would not say the rule to obtain those things directly means fraud; however, not doing those things while claiming primary residence in the state seems to show an intent to defraud the election system.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:44 am to ctalati32
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It is not voter fraud.
Voting twice is voter fraud.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:46 am to ctalati32
quote:From the get go Kobach and this process has been littered with inexcusable mistakes.
But as it stands with the information we have, Kobach made a factually incorrect claim
They sent the requests to wrong offices in some stages and requested data that some states were not legally allowed to provide. So unless they did that intentionally, then they failed to even verify who was responsible for the information and what information they were allowed to provide.
Kobach's own state does not allow some of that information to be released.
So given how incompetent this appears to; it's no wonder why states have been so resistant to this process.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:47 am to Ace Midnight
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Voting twice is voter fraud.
Yep. I did a little research. That student has to designate the state in which he wants to vote. Can not vote in both states for the same politcal office.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:38 am to Colonel Flagg
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I would say in essecence they are being fraudulent by voting in a place they have shown intent to not call their primary residence. The whole language of domicile vs resident seems stupid and I would say the only argument leads to fraud.
So I would not say the rule to obtain those things directly means fraud; however, not doing those things while claiming primary residence in the state seems to show an intent to defraud the election system.
I think that's a stretch. It's allowed by law so they are taking advantage of it.
If not they would just have to vote absentee in their home state. I don't think there' more to read into this than otherwise.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:41 am to Ace Midnight
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It is not voter fraud.
Voting twice is voter fraud.
Never said voting twice wasn't voter fraud. I've already stated the distinction in this thread and don't feel like doing it again
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:43 am to Homesick Tiger
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So if the kids vote in NH for a national race then that disqualifies them from voting in their home state? Right?
Just how is that enforced?
Yeah because a person is going to vote in one state and then go over to any other state they can get to just to cast that one extra vote. You're an idiot
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:44 am to Ebbandflow
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You're an idiot
Says the guy who can't figure out how mail-in votes and absentee votes work.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:47 am to Colonel Flagg
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So I would not say the rule to obtain those things directly means fraud; however, not doing those things while claiming primary residence in the state seems to show an intent to defraud the election system.
Fearful conservative lala land. Do you honestly believe a person is going to try to cast more votes and travel around to get that extra one? Do you have any idea how f****** stupid that sounds?
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:48 am to Homesick Tiger
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Says the guy who can't figure out how mail-in votes and absentee votes work.
Either way. No one is risking violating federal law for ONE extra vote. Youre still an idiot.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:58 am to Ebbandflow
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No one is risking violating federal law for ONE extra vote.
You naive much? What program is in check to keep little Johnny from absentee voting back home a month before an election and then voting on election day at UNH. Who would do that you ask?
People with an agenda, that's who. What is the percentage of the chance of them getting caught? Less than one percent is I'm guessing.
You really don't think there are people that take advantage of that?
Oh yeah, I'm trying to have a civil discussion here. Show your maturity here and leave off the idiot moniker when you respond this time.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:03 pm to Ebbandflow
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Fearful conservative lala land. Do you honestly believe a person is going to try to cast more votes and travel around to get that extra one? Do you have any idea how f****** stupid that sounds?
Well I think the idea a bunch of people traveling around for a protest about every little thing is stupid (like ANTIFA, BLM, pink hat march thing), but it sure does happen.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:05 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:I'm sure some take advantage of it, but I don't think it's very common at all.
You really don't think there are people that take advantage of that?
Most people don't want to break the law; the people who are in these situations have more to lose even if the risk of getting caught is slim, and unless both states are swing states, it's likely pointless to vote in at least one of those states anyways.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:08 pm to buckeye_vol
If people will go out of their way to attend all of these ridiculous politcal protest over the last couple of years I have no doubt it wouldn't be much of an inconvenience to game the system to continue to help forward their agenda.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:13 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Why would a state agree to such a stupid rule?
Does it inflate DEM vote totals?? == if yes, then good law.
if no, then bad BAD law.
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