re: King Herod’s 2,000-Year-Old Roman Basilica Uncovered in Ashkelon

Yes the Bible is indeed perfect. God guarantees it. If God cannot keep the purity of His own Word, then He's not God. God, by His providence, has guarded the passage of His Word through the Centuries.

I can't believe a "Christian" would reject the infallibility of the Word of God. Do you even know what you believe???

Then why does practically all of Christendom recognize that the Bible isn't perfect? We know where a number of innovations and additions are, know where there are anachronisms, and understand that some pieces are simply not events that actually happened.

That doesn't change the reality of the spiritual message.

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You can see, baby killing goes back a long way.

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Which goes back further, Herod's slaughter of the innocents or God's global flood?

Such a simple minded and dogmatic way to view things, and you set our young people up to leave the faith.

I disagree with sodcutterjones false dichotomy, there's a lot of room between God's inerrant word and completely false...

But if it is simply the word of man, is it fair to lay an eternal judgement on humans for finite "crimes" when the message/rule book/whatever you want to call the Bible is merely the imperfect workings of fallen beings?

I don't know what Christian Universe you live in but in the real one YOU are one of the few that I've ever talked to that actually rejects the infallibility of the Word. "We" don't know those lies you are spewing!

And indeed it does affect the reality of the Spiritual Message! If one can't believe all of GOD'S WORD, he cannot believe any of it! Else how does he know what to believe and what to reject? The God that created the Heavens and the Earth is able to secure His Word through the centuries.

Again, stop reading books about the Bible and read and believe the Bible.

The dating of the Gospels depends almost entirely on Mark 13 where Jesus talks about the destruction of the Temple. As we all know, the Second Temple Period came to an end when the Romans demolished it in AD 70 at the climax of the Jewish Revolt. This has led scholars to believe that Mark wasn't written until after the year 70 and, since it is believed to have been the first gospel written (due to its shorter length and low Christology) that must mean the other three were written after the year 70 as well. However, as William Lane Craig points out, Jesus's allusion toward the destruction of the Temple is very vague and doesn't line up with the description Josephus paints for us in his history of the event.

It's also difficult to square a late dating of the Gospel of Luke when you consider the fact that a majority of scholars are in agreement that the author of the Gospel of Luke wrote the Acts of the Apostles as a kind of sequel. The Acts of the Apostles ends before the Roman persecutions begin and before the deaths of Peter and Paul in Rome. This would suggest a dating of the Gospel of Luke to a time before the year AD 67.

As mentioned previously, another reason why Mark is often considered the first gospel written is due to its length and its low Christology. This ignores the fact that Mark was writing to a Gentile audience who would have had no understanding of Jewish prophecy surrounding the messianic figure they were waiting for. It also ignores the fact that Paul's letters contain a High Christology and they were written by Paul starting in the early-50s.

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right, he killed John the Baptist because he put his bitch wife's pussy on a pedestal.

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Wrong Herod dumbass. Herod the Great is not Herod Antipas.

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Correct. Herod Antipas, the murderer of John the Baptist, was one of the three sons who were allowed by the Romans to divide their father's(Herod the Great)kingdom. Antipas ruled Galilee where John the Baptist and Jesus did much of their teaching.

Observation from one that spent an entire Semester in an in-depth study of the Four Gospels followed by an in-depth study of the New Testament. Months of work and active debate. St Leo University, Business Masters Degree program in San Antonio, FL.

"The dating of the Gospels depends almost entirely on Mark 13 where Jesus talks about the destruction of the Temple."

There cannot be more wrong in one sentence.

Mathew, Mark and Luke all mention the destruction prophecy of Jesus regarding the temple....PROPHECY

Further reading of all three books ...emphasizes the point that this event has not yet occurred. Read beyond what theory has been offered by a person that has not ventured beyond an agenda

The disciples question Jesus about when and how ....In all three books. Add to that misguided theory ...the fact in which modern scholars skipped Bible School and study when it was offered as a class in college.

If you claim that Mark is not written until after 70AD ....then all three books are wrong

This is not baseball. No one is out.


The dating of an entire complete sample of a book does not mean that book was written on the date your sample dating has concluded .... The original scroll does not exist and no one has any idea about the date or timeline.

In the argument ..... contradiction is introduced in the summary. Yes, Paul and Peter's work conclude at 67 AD according to historical records. The authors both have been crucified ....thus the letters stop. If they occur between 50 and 67AD ....and both authors mention the works of Jesus ....it's likely that the same audiences of the intent for the letters all have the same information regarding the life and miracles of Jesus .....If the Gospels were not written until after the destruction of the temple .......who wrote the foundation from which Peter and Paul write after their deaths?

The siege of Jerusalem starts in 66AD and ends when the walls are breeched in 70AD. Tens of thousands of occupants were killed in the siege. Thousands on the steps leading to the Temple itself. Titus and Josephus both come close to being killed by the Roman Soldiers ...The survivors are taken to Rome, to be slaves of killed in the coliseum.

When the entire city has been decimated, a Roman garrison was left in the fortress .known as the Wailing wall. ....to prevent any resistance movement ....

Where exactly did these mysterious authors work after the fall? Even the Book of Revelations dictates the necessity of the exact measurement of the temple itself, excluding the courtyards. None were written after the destruction of the temple.

Scholars (PHD's) create adversity just to create Theory. It doesn't mean the theory has any legs to it.