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re: Killing people who are not attacking you or your countrymen is MURDER and anti-Christ
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:53 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:53 pm to FooManChoo
The Church is to obey authorities in everything that is unrelated to the Christian Faith.
However, when it touches the faith and the commands of Christ, totally different story.
St. Basil says: “It is right to submit to higher authority whenever a command of God is not violated thereby.”
Killing unarmed citizens is sinful. To do such is against Christ.
However, when it touches the faith and the commands of Christ, totally different story.
St. Basil says: “It is right to submit to higher authority whenever a command of God is not violated thereby.”
Killing unarmed citizens is sinful. To do such is against Christ.
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:55 pm to Jimmyboy
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They’ve been poisoning us for decades
You mean the CIA? The Rx industrial complex? The Mexican govt? Oh, you mean some poor dudes on a speedboat, but not all the powerful people running the whole thing.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:55 pm to HillbillyTiger
I keep looking for the part of this thread where the Catholic or Pentecostal or Baptist pastors and choir leaders are murdering people in the streets or dropping bombs on boats.
Can't seem to find it.
Still alot of people murdering unborn babies though.
Can't seem to find it.
Still alot of people murdering unborn babies though.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:59 pm to HillbillyTiger
Being unarmed doesn’t make someone a ‘non-aggressor.’ The law doesn’t define aggression as holding a gun — it defines it by actions that create lethal harm. A vessel trafficking cocaine or fentanyl is participating in a chain of conduct that kills thousands. That is an act of aggression regardless of whether anyone on deck is pointing a weapon.
And the claim that the U.S. military ‘is not allowed to use lethal force’ in these situations is simply wrong. The military is authorized to use lethal force against confirmed hostile or unlawful actors when their actions constitute a serious threat to national security or public safety. The threat doesn’t have to be immediate gunfire — it can be the deliberate transport of lethal contraband. The rules of engagement and international maritime law both allow force when a vessel’s actions pose that level of danger.
Calling any use of force a ‘drone strike’ or ‘murder’ doesn’t change the legal reality. The method of force doesn’t determine whether it’s justified — the threat profile does. A vessel knowingly transporting lethal narcotics is not a harmless actor, and stopping that threat with lethal force is not prohibited, nor is it murder.
And the claim that the U.S. military ‘is not allowed to use lethal force’ in these situations is simply wrong. The military is authorized to use lethal force against confirmed hostile or unlawful actors when their actions constitute a serious threat to national security or public safety. The threat doesn’t have to be immediate gunfire — it can be the deliberate transport of lethal contraband. The rules of engagement and international maritime law both allow force when a vessel’s actions pose that level of danger.
Calling any use of force a ‘drone strike’ or ‘murder’ doesn’t change the legal reality. The method of force doesn’t determine whether it’s justified — the threat profile does. A vessel knowingly transporting lethal narcotics is not a harmless actor, and stopping that threat with lethal force is not prohibited, nor is it murder.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:00 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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I keep looking for the part of this thread where the Catholic or Pentecostal or Baptist pastors and choir leaders are murdering people in the streets. Can't seem to find it.
Like arguing with a wall of drying paint.
Why are you directing this insanity at me? This conversation is about state sanctioned MURDER.
But I’ll bite…what Venezuelans are operating boats that kill people in these streets you’re droning on about.
Oh wait, how many THOUSANDS of kids and women have Catholic and Protestant clergy destroyed through sexual abuse? You really want to open that Pandora's box?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:02 pm to RoyalWe
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A vessel knowingly transporting lethal narcotics is not a harmless actor, and stopping that threat with lethal force is not prohibited, nor is it murde
Okay dude…you know nothing. Provide one time in US history LE has ever been allowed to kill a drug trafficker solely for trafficking.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:02 pm to HillbillyTiger
quote:Yes, this is what I've been saying from the beginning. That's a principle highlighted in Acts 4, as I said previously.
The Church is to obey authorities in everything that is unrelated to the Christian Faith.
However, when it touches the faith and the commands of Christ, totally different story.
St. Basil says: “It is right to submit to higher authority whenever a command of God is not violated thereby.”
quote:You need to clarify what type of "killing" you are referring to. Murder is always sinful, but killing is not always sinful. Killing in self-defense, or as just execution (as a government law-enforcer), or for a just war is not sinful.
Killing unarmed citizens is sinful. To do such is against Christ.
That being said, why are you mentioning killing "unarmed citizens"? In what context are you referring to? Technically, whenever a criminal is put to death in the U.S., an "unarmed citizen" is being killed, and that's not immoral. So please elaborate what you mean here.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:06 pm to HillbillyTiger
Yep those guys are trash too. They actually deserve to die as well for all the lives they’ve taken and ruined. We know that will not happen because too much money is involved. Upstart drug dealers like the ones trump is killing is about as best as we can do
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:08 pm to HillbillyTiger
quote:You’re trying to change the claim into something nobody said. The standard isn’t ‘kill solely for trafficking.’ Under both U.S. and international law, a vessel engaged in conduct that poses a serious threat to national security or mass civilian life can be treated as a hostile, unlawful target even at a distance. The justification isn’t the trafficking charge — it’s the lethal nature of the cargo and the certainty of harm if it reaches its destination.
Provide one time in US history LE has ever been allowed to kill a drug trafficker solely for trafficking.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:09 pm to HillbillyTiger
fricking alter can't answer a question.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:12 pm to RoyalWe
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a vessel engaged in conduct that poses a serious threat to national security
It posed no threat to our security. Zero.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:14 pm to HillbillyTiger
I would qualify what you mean by not attacking you. Those drug runners are attacking us and our countrymen. Drugs kill and destroy the lives of many. Go to any decent sized city and find the homeless population. Those people are walking dead. I’m from a small town in North Louisiana. Our local newspaper publishes arrests from the previous week. They are almost all drug charges. There were almost no drug cases in our parish when I was a kid. That crap started in the 1990s and continues to get worse. That evil needs to be wiped out.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:16 pm to HillbillyTiger
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Where have I once used my Creator as a “prop”?
You aren’t as smart as you think you are. It’s very obvious what you’re doing. You aren’t witnessing. You’re using God as a prop to score political points. It isn’t clever. It’s blasphemous and disrespectful. You’re not the first and won’t be the last to do this here. You likely won’t be posting here anymore by Christmas. You morons usually flame out pretty quickly.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:18 pm to LsuNav
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Those drug runners are attacking us and our countrymen.
This thread is enlightening...
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:18 pm to RoyalWe
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Under both U.S. and international law, a vessel engaged in conduct that poses a serious threat to national security or mass civilian life can be treated as a hostile, unlawful target even at a distance
Serious threat to national security??? Are you partaking in this magical Venezuelan fentanyl sheep on here drone on about?
UN describes threats to mass civilian life as “Serious threats to mass civilian life globally in late 2024 and 2025 primarily stem from ongoing armed conflicts, mass atrocities, terrorism, and the potential use of unconventional weapons”
Guess they forgot about unarmed cigar boats with cocaine (allegedly).
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If leadership acted wrongly, they answer to God and to the law. It isn’t our place to make definitive judgments based on partial information. We can discuss policy, but declaring people wicked with no access to the intel is overstepping.
It posed no threat to our security. Zero.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:20 pm to RoyalWe
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. It isn’t our place to make definitive judgments based on partial information.
Thats what all citizens do. You have to use common sense and intuition, things molded over the years by experience.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:21 pm to LsuNav
I agree with you it’s an evil scourge. You think even one ounce of drugs in north LA came from Venezuela?
All fentanyl comes from China and/or Mexico. Address the real actors not some mainstream media rope a dope to invade the country with largest oil reserves on earth.
All fentanyl comes from China and/or Mexico. Address the real actors not some mainstream media rope a dope to invade the country with largest oil reserves on earth.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:24 pm to BBONDS25
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You likely won’t be posting here anymore by Christmas. You morons usually flame out pretty quickly
I’ll be here till New Year’s just for your sake.
Your post history shows you worship at the Church of Post Modernist Neocons, so your theological insights don’t hold much water.
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