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re: Killing people who are not attacking you or your countrymen is MURDER and anti-Christ

Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:25 pm to
Why do you say that?
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4953 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:27 pm to
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UN describes threats to mass civilian life as “Serious threats to mass civilian life globally in late 2024 and 2025 primarily stem from ongoing armed conflicts, mass atrocities, terrorism, and the potential use of unconventional weapons”
The UN doesn’t determine what counts as a national-security threat for sovereign nations. Their publications describe global trends, but they don’t define or limit what threats a country is allowed to act against. U.S. threat assessments are based on the intelligence our leaders have — not on a UN summary. So saying ‘the UN didn’t list it’ doesn’t prove the threat was zero; it just proves the UN wasn’t talking about this specific situation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:30 pm to
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The UN doesn’t determine what counts as a national-security threat for sovereign nations


Cocaine on a boat going to Trinidad isnt posing any threat to our security.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Your post history shows you worship at the Church of Post Modernist Neocons, so your theological insights don’t hold much water.


Gleaned all that in just a few short minutes, huh? You just confirmed that you’re a troll. You should be ashamed. I will take solace in the fact you’re a dime a dozen around here and won’t be here long. You will get tired of being swatted down.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4953 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Thats what all citizens do.
Sure, citizens judge things. But citizens also don’t get classified briefings. So maybe keep the ‘zero threat’ pronouncements in the opinion category where they belong.
Posted by HillbillyTiger
Member since Oct 2025
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:33 pm to
Round and round we go.

Look, just say you are all in on killing HUMANS made in the IMAGE of GOD who pose no DIRECT threat to you or anyone else around you.

Using a drone is easy…killing these men (or women) without due process of law or facing imminent serious bodily injury/death from them is MURDER.

Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4953 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:34 pm to
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Cocaine on a boat going to Trinidad isnt posing any threat to our security.
I guess when you get the full security briefings and are confirmed as Secretary of War then you can make that call, Roger. Good luck on your Senate confirmation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:34 pm to
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But citizens also don’t get classified briefings. So maybe keep the ‘zero threat’ pronouncements in the opinion category where they belong.


Gotcha. Trust the "Deep State.."
Posted by HillbillyTiger
Member since Oct 2025
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:35 pm to
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Gleaned all that in just a few short minutes, huh


Yes. Nothing original or efficacious in your posts to read much into.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:35 pm to
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I guess when you get the full security briefings and are confirmed as Secretary of War then you can make that call, Roger.


Did you buy into the Weapons of Mass Destruction? Good times...

If drugs were the issue, Venezuela wouldnt be the target.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 5:39 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4953 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:38 pm to
Invoking ‘image of God’ only for the smugglers makes no sense — everyone in this scenario is made in God’s image, including the thousands killed by the drugs being trafficked. The doctrine doesn’t grant immunity from consequences; it imposes responsibility to protect innocent life. And yes, I’m absolutely in favor of our government doing what’s necessary to keep our citizens safe. That’s part of its God-given role.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37615 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:41 pm to
Are they the reason people are ruining themselves with the drugs. Or are the users who make up the demand just as guilty, if not more so? We have an incredible appetite in this country for mind altering and addictive substances. We've had a flourishing heroin market in the big cities for more than a century. We've helped facilitate the opium trade for the last century and a half with our demand. The suppliers fill a need. You eliminate the Colombians, you'll just get another group with a drug of choice be it big pharma.....big alcohol or another import to take the place.

......and because of the ridiculous comparative wealth it will continue
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4953 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:43 pm to
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Did you buy into the Weapons of Mass Destruction? Good times...
WMDs in 2003 have no bearing on whether today’s intel was accurate. One historical mistake doesn’t mean every current operation is built on lies. You’re using past events as a stand-in for information you admit you don’t have. Also, who says parts of Venezuela isn't a target? Is this more inside information you have?
Posted by HillbillyTiger
Member since Oct 2025
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:43 pm to
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Invoking ‘image of God’ only for the smugglers makes no sense — everyone in this scenario is made in God’s image, including the thousands killed by the drugs being trafficked


Just innocent folks standing around while others shoot drugs into their veins? They’re all innocents who die engaging in shootings and killings over turf wars in Chicago? New Orleans?

No politicians have the answers or solutions and KILLING folks is not the answer. If it is, I’m sure you’re all on board killing all the aforementioned as well? Right?

Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20843 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:44 pm to
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If those people are bringing in poison to your country they are 100% a threat and it is justified and compatible with Christian teachings.


Thou shall not commit murder.

That's all anyone needs to know. I didn't give my consent to be born into this world and I don't consent to leave it in a violent manner.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:45 pm to
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And yes, I’m absolutely in favor of our government doing what’s necessary to keep our citizens safe.

Alcohol kills 250k Americans per year. Which one of your government heroes is tackling that issue, and why aren't you trying to repeal the 21a?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:45 pm to
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WMDs in 2003 have no bearing on whether today’s intel was accurate. One historical mistake doesn’t mean every current operation is built on lies. You’re using past events as a stand-in for information you admit you don’t have


The US govt has a long track record of trumped up "police actions" on our record.

Its regime change.
Posted by HillbillyTiger
Member since Oct 2025
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:46 pm to
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One historical mistake


Hey man, I have some prime real estate to sell you at a nuclear test site…trust me…i’m from the govt.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4953 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:49 pm to
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Just innocent folks standing around while others shoot drugs into their veins? They’re all innocents who die engaging in shootings and killings over turf wars in Chicago? New Orleans?

No politicians have the answers or solutions and KILLING folks is not the answer. If it is, I’m sure you’re all on board killing all the aforementioned as well? Right?
That’s a ridiculous comparison and you know it. Stopping a confirmed lethal smuggling operation is not the same as executing addicts or mowing down neighborhoods. Nobody argued for killing every person touched by drugs — that’s your strawman, not my position.

A targeted strike on a specific lethal threat isn’t a blank check to ‘kill everyone in Chicago.’ It’s a government doing its job: stopping a deadly supply chain before it kills more people. If you can’t tell the difference between neutralizing a threat and exterminating a community, that’s not a moral stance — it’s just sloppy thinking.

This has been a tour of logical fallacies — false equivalence, strawmen, and leaps to certainty without evidence. Impressive in its own way. I’ll let you guys keep debating with yourselves...or continue your mutual circle jerk.
Posted by HillbillyTiger
Member since Oct 2025
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Stopping a confirmed lethal smuggling operation


Is this definition from same folks (CIA) who created term narco-terrorist? Both mean nothing.
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