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re: Kelsey Grammer hits the bull's eye regarding rape and abortion

Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34756 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:14 pm to
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People who are pro life, with the exception of rape or incest, are hypocrites. Obviously.


I reject the incest exception. You don't get a free out just because if was your brother you decided to frick.

If your brother raped you on the other hand, then it's rape. The fact that it was your brother is irrelevant.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

I reject the incest exception. You don't get a free out just because if was your brother you decided to frick.

If your brother raped you on the other hand, then it's rape. The fact that it was your brother is irrelevant.


To the unborn baby, it's all irrelevant.
Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2704 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:34 pm to
Abortion….a now hot topic since this generation thinks it’s means for birth control.

According to the Lozier Institute

Rape and incest: 0.4%
Risk to the woman's life or a major bodily function: 0.3%
Other physical health concerns: 2.2%
Abnormality in the unborn baby: 1.2%
Elective and unspecified reasons: 95.9%

Margaret Sanger would be so proud that her plan came to fruition.

“safe, legal, & rare”
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1688 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:39 pm to
I agree 100 % , killing a baby is murder point blank , no exceptions. There are millions of people who can't have kids and would adopt and give that baby a happy home.

Most women nowadays use abortion for birth control, they don't have morals or any sense of godly spirit in them. If they did they couldn't just have them and brag about it like it's so wonderful.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2761 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:41 pm to
Completely disagree.

You want to force a woman to carry the child of the man who raped her? That’s like being assaulted again over and over. If you’ve ever known sexual assault victims you’ll know what I’m talking about.

Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:45 pm to
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You want to force a woman to carry the child of the man who raped her?


So you're going to murder the baby?
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:50 pm to
morning after pill IMMEDIATELY for rape victims, problem solved.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15900 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

People who are pro life, with the exception of rape or incest, are hypocrites. Obviously.

Nah, the key ingredient you're missing is justification. We justify killing people all the time: death row monsters, terrorists, brain-dead machine dependent loved ones, soldiers in war, self-defense, etc. We can also justify traumatic rape, genetic-abnormality incest, and fatal-risk to life-of-the-mother abortions. It's not hypocritical. it's justified.

Consenting sex using abortion as a contraception is a line in the sand. It is not justifiable. It's irresponsible. Obviously.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:57 pm to
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It's not hypocritical. it's justified.


I disagree. You're taking the life of an innocent baby who had no choice i its conception. Complete innocent. Not a criminal, or soldier, or someone on their death bed.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2104 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

People who are pro life, with the exception of rape or incest, are hypocrites. Obviously.


This never won’t be controversial.

I’m a man, and won’t have to worry about this, but if my daughter was raped and became pregnant, I can’t imagine telling her she can’t terminate the pregnancy and she would be a murderer if she did so.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154723 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:59 pm to
Why don’t you ever answer a question?

So you can just continue to be a contrarian smart arse with no convictions?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Kelsey Grammer hits the bull's eye regarding rape and abortion
No.
Sorry.
No woman should be forced to carry rape spawn.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Why don’t you ever answer a question?


What question? I'll answer.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154723 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:09 pm to
The one you ignored, didn’t answer and proceeded to ask a question in response to a question.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

The one you ignored, didn’t answer and proceeded to ask a question in response to a question.


I don't see that post. Ask.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154723 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:12 pm to
It wasn’t my question.

You answered a question with a question.

I don’t care if you ever answer it.

I was just curious why you never have a stance.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2104 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:13 pm to
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No woman should be forced to carry rape spawn


Rape spawn is not ideal terminology, and it’s not the child’s fault; however, the uncomfortable finding is the probability of committing a sex crime, pedophilia and rape, is also partially genetic.

That said, we can’t hold the child accountable for the sins of the father, even if the child is more likely to commit the sin.

PubMed Central
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Is abortion murder? It either is, or isn't.


It is, but it's a moral gray area. There is no right in that situation. There's only "feels less wrong."
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2104 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

It is, but it's a moral gray area.


Some folks only see issues in black and white.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22956 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:33 pm to
Excellent point
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