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re: Kamala says Trump is Hitler, Undecided Pennsylvania Voters React

Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:00 pm to
Weird Kamala said Hitler had good policies.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:02 pm to
Over on the OT we should have a nice long thread on this topic of whether Adolf Hitler was what we would call "a good leader".

IMHO, he was not a good leader. He was an opportunistic politician, which is not the same thing. But, he was not what I would call "a good leader", because I'm retired military and my study of military history defines my vision of what "a good leader" is.

Other dissenting opinions are of course valid.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:04 pm to
That was not my quote please edit your post
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:06 pm to
Small sampling, but a pretty accurate generalization of how "average" folks are viewing all this bullshite and embellished histrionics.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

IMHO, he was not a good leader. He was an opportunistic politician, which is not the same thing. But, he was not what I would call "a good leader", because I'm retired military and my study of military history defines my vision of what "a good leader" is.




I understand your specific mentioning of military history and I agree with it but he was not a good leader by any historical metric

If someone were to say he was a successful leader in killing his some of enemies and causing great damage for a brief amount of time

ok
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:08 pm to
a no-talent nobody could not have done what he did
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:16 pm to
I said he was a talented speaker

My Granddad was a talented popular speaker and made a career out of giving sermons at tent revivals



I'm unaware of any deaths because of it
Posted by TN Tygah
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Hitler had a lot of qualities that GOOD leaders possess, and NEED to possess.



Dangerous to say this because of how it comes across, but it’s true. In my 9th grade speech class, circa 2001, we actually watched a few clips of speeches that Hitler gave. Doubt you could get away with that now.

But something I’ve noticed about Democrats this go round, I’m in a few political groups and it seems to be… “white supremacists like Trump, is this the group you want to be associated with?” Or “Make America Great Again is ultranationalist… that is peak fascism!”

This is equivalent to the logical fallacy (not sure if it has a name), “All blue jays are blue. All blue jays are birds. All birds must be blue.”

It’s amazing how many people actually do believe this.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:22 pm to
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I'm unaware of any deaths because of it


Well that's good.


The goals one puts their talent towards, matters.
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
Hitler went pee pee. Sorry progstains. You can’t use a toilet any longer. You effing fascists.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:27 pm to
I don’t get the headset dude saying the right talks about Stalin. I’ve never heard that from the right before. Thats a new one for me.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:33 pm to
Even the fact check on Newsweek says this is true.

You idiot.
Posted by RedHog260
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:37 pm to
I don't think anyone really argues that Hitler wasn't a talented leader.



was he?


he took credit for other's work,,the flag


As does Biden


he didn't listen to his most experienced Generals/advisors
never gave them credit internally or externally


As did Biden in the Afghan withdrawal disaster.


he killed off those he disagreed with


So far as we know Biden has only imprisoned those he disagrees with.


His country was ultimately destroyed


So far Biden is doing a preety good job at this effort.


he failed at everything he tried the last failure cost millions of lives


Biden has failed at everything and his border policy has cost hundreds of lives not to mention thousands of rapes and untold other crimes.


He gave good speeches
the people who were the original leaders of the Nazi Party underestimated his ego


Many of Bidens speeches are reminiscent of Hitlers speeches.


others would use him to try to advance their careers but their greed could not keep pace with his


Biden personified!


Adolf as an individual was underrated but as a leader he was vastly overrated


Biden is over rated in both categories.

Posted by cuddlefish
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:50 pm to
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As for Newsweek, as so much of the "normal" media has been doing, they're sanewashing Trump while simultaneously stretching the truth about Harris. As they state, the closest she came to calling Trump "Hitler" was in reference to him "invoking" Hitler when talking about John Kelly's "unfavorable comments" that he did.

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Harris didn't directly call Trump "Hitler". However, many will think she came very close to it: she confirmed that she believes Trump is a fascist, quoted Kelly's unfavorable comments, and suggested Trump would "invoke" Hitler.


That's a far cry from your lie that "Even the fact check on Newsweek says this is true." To be fair, maybe you're not lying. Maybe it's just that profound deficit in processing information that defines so many of you.

As for this "JD Vance", how can you take a guy seriously that goes from wondering if "Trump is America's Hitler" to the thing he is now.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:55 pm to
Be mad at Newsweek, pussy hat boy.

I can’t take any of you radical leftists seriously.

You, Weirdo Walz nor your girl Kumala the cackling word salad idiot.

Don’t you have an abortion cake to bake? Beat it back to DU
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

he was not a good leader by any historical metric


We could not have a rational and informed debate on the topic "Was Hitler a Good Leader" until after we were able agree to a written and finalized agreed-upon Definition of the term "Good Leader".

If we tried to discuss this topic without first agreeing upon a written definition of the term "Good Leader" then our discussion would resolve absolutely nothing. It would be sheer mental masturbation, which, would please some, but, speaking for myself - I'd rather go back and look at the Emily Compagno thread.

PS Owlie! She's 44 years old! That within our age range! We could totally bang her, man !!
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by AZHorn
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 12:59 pm to
quote:


he didn't listen to his most experienced Generals/advisors
never gave them credit internally or externally

he killed off those he disagreed with

His country was ultimately destroyed

he failed at everything he tried the last failure cost millions of lives


I don't think Germany would have lasted as long as they did in the war without him. There probably wouldn't have even been a war, and Germany would have still been really struggling economically, had he not come along. He did some good for a very crippled country (economically), but he did way more bad in the end..

I think from Germany's standpoint, they had to go to war to get the crippling sanctions from WW1 lifted. They were really crippled economically and none of the other countries wanted to lift sanctions to help them. So as far as the war, they may not have had any choice. Hitler made them as strong as possible, but nobody can take on both of the super powers in the world at the same time and win.
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 1:00 pm to
Hitler and The Nazi's -

jailed thier political opponents to try and keep them off the Ballot - (Democrats tried to jail Trump.)
Tried and did assination attempts at thier political Opponents (Trump had two assination attempts)
Controlled the Media and issued Propaganda (Colbert, The View, MSNBC, CNN, facebook fact checkers)
Used a Reichstag Fire to shut down the Nation and lay blame (Covid)
Brought in thousands of others to also vote Nazi (Annexation of Austria, and Czechoslovakia, (Where Democrats just left the border open)
Blamed the Jews for everything (Democrats are now blaming White People)


Seems to me that it is the Democratic party is the one that is using Nazi tactics... So if killing Hitler before WWII is the right answer, then It would only seem fitting for somebody to take out Kamala Harris before this mess goes any further.
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