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Justice Department Asks Congress for Indefinite Detention Powers To Fight "Covid"

Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:26 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:26 pm
For those paying attention

Y’all think Covid is the only thing in play???
Do current events jive with what you see around???

There’s something happening here, what it is ain’t exactly clear...

https://reason.com/2020/03/21/justice-department-reportedly-asks-congress-for-indefinite-detention-powers-to-fight-coronavirus/

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CORONAVIRUS
Justice Department Reportedly Asks Congress for Indefinite Detention Powers To Fight Coronavirus Congress should loudly and unanimously reject this insanity.
ERIC BOEHM | 3.21.2020 4:03 PM


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The Justice Department is using the COVID-19 outbreak to press for sweeping new powers that include being able to detain Americans indefinitely without a trial, Politico reports. The department is asking Congress to allow the U.S. attorney general to ask courts to suspend court proceedings. These include "any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings," reports Betsy Woodruff Swan, citing DOJ documents presented to Congress.

In other words, the Justice Department would be able to postpone trials, hearings, and other procedural steps that follow arrest. That represents a potentially huge violation of the constitutional right to a speedy trial.

Those powers would apply "whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation," Woodruff Swan writes, and would remain in place for "one year following the end of the national emergency


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Let us not forget...

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Buckle up
It is going to get bumpy for a while...
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:27 pm to
Couple of ways this can go...
Posted by TuDog
Boston
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:27 pm to
Def happening now! buckle up!
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:47 pm to
a nuke needs to land on top of the Justice dept headquarters
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:58 pm to
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Y’all think Covid is the only thing in play???

Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 8:59 pm to
*jibe
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:32 pm to
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/

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DOJ Wants to Suspend Certain Constitutional Rights During Coronavirus Emergency The Department of Justice has secretly asked Congress for the ability to detain arrested people “indefinitely” in addition to other powers that one expert called “terrifying”
By PETER WADE


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Norman L. Reimer, executive director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, told Politico the measure was “terrifying,” saying, “Not only would it be a violation of [habeas corpus], but it says ‘affecting pre-arrest.’ So that means you could be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over. I find it absolutely terrifying. Especially in a time of emergency, we should be very careful about granting new powers to the government.” “That is something that should not happen in a democracy,” he added.

DOJ also asked Congress to amend the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure to have defendants appear at a hearing via videoconference instead of in-person with the defendant’s consent, although in a draft obtained by Politico, the sections about requiring consent were crossed out. But it’s not just Americans’ rights the DOJ wants to violate. They also asked Congress to pass a law saying that immigrants who test positive for COVID-19 cannot qualify as asylum seekers.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:51 pm to
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-inside-militarys-top-secret-plans-if-coronavirus-cripples-government-1492878

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U.S. EXCLUSIVE: INSIDE THE MILITARY'S TOP SECRET PLANS IF CORONAVIRUS CRIPPLES THE GOVERNMENT
BY WILLIAM M. ARKIN
ON 3/18/20 AT 7:00 AM EDT


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According to new documents and interviews with military experts, the various plans – codenamed Octagon, Freejack and Zodiac – are the underground laws to ensure government continuity. They are so secret that under these extraordinary plans, "devolution" could circumvent the normal Constitutional provisions for government succession, and military commanders could be placed in control around America.


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When might the military's "emergency authority" be needed? Traditionally, it's thought of after a nuclear device goes off in an American city. But now, planners are looking at military response to urban violence as people seek protection and fight over food. And, according to one senior officer, in the contingency of the complete evacuation of Washington. Under Defense department regulations, military commanders are authorized to take action on their own – in extraordinary circumstances – where "duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation." The conditions include "large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances" involving "significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property." The Joint Chiefs of Staff codified these rules in October 2018, reminding commanders that they could decide, on their own authority, to "engage temporarily" in military control in circumstances "where prior authorization by the President is impossible" or where local authorities "are unable to control the situation." A new Trump-era Pentagon directive calls it "extreme situations." In all cases, even where a military commander declares martial law, the directives say that civil rule has to be restored as soon as possible.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:52 pm to
The Justice Dept. is only as powerful as the people whom they serve and please allow them to be. Per the Thread about the massive uptick in the purchase of guns due to the CV, that tells just where the mind of the people is, if push comes to shove.

The Founders feared a Central Bank more than a Standing Army; and given the Government's compassionate - but heretofore monetarily unparalleled - response to the CV...things are changing, TP. I can not imagine why DOJ would request such an outlandish request, given that Barr et al must know the minds of the people they serve...and what would likely happen if they truly tried to go rogue in full view. Hell, at least the Dem DOJ lied and covered up.

Guess we'll know soon enough.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:16 pm to
i read this on drudge just now and i don’t know wtf is happening. this isn’t our america. maybe trump is a russian plant and i voted for trump
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:22 pm to


this is to give the courts leeway to manage new and cases in progress. procedures have time limits on the court the requires the judge to let a criminal go if there is no ability to set a trial for instance. the alternative is to stop the cops from making arrests
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:32 pm to
dear sweet Jesus

and we will roll over and take it

WTF Trump???
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:35 pm to
In on the first page!
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:39 pm to

This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 10:42 pm
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29684 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:41 pm to
the more I think about this, the more frustrated I get with Trump

this is next level tyranny; far worse as a blunder than even the Jeff Sessions fiasco (allowing the Russia witch hunt to get legs with the Mueller investigation)

fact is, I am alarmed by much of what I am seeing

not alarmed to see it from the left or even the GOPe; but Trump?

et tu Brute?

Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:50 pm to
What the actual?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:53 pm to
This isn't what people are thinking. The report is greatly overhyping the matter, surprise surprise. Which is very dangerous given the subject matter. The effort is mainly to suspend time limitations that typically work against the government. Under normal circumstances if the govt fails to act within prescribed timeframes for various things then the defendant is released pending trial, no bail necessary, or the case may even be dismissed.

But the govt can't hit those marks if the court isn't open for them to get in there and do it. So the argument is that defendants shouldn't go free nor cases dismissed due to no fault of the prosecution.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15713 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:00 am to
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This isn't what people are thinking. The report is greatly overhyping the matter, surprise surprise. Which is very dangerous given the subject matter. The effort is mainly to suspend time limitations that typically work against the government. Under normal circumstances if the govt fails to act within prescribed timeframes for various things then the defendant is released pending trial, no bail necessary, or the case may even be dismissed.

But the govt can't hit those marks if the court isn't open for them to get in there and do it. So the argument is that defendants shouldn't go free nor cases dismissed due to no fault of the prosecution.


We've all seen what poorly-written legislation can do. And we know what paves the road to hell.
Posted by GoldenAge
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:06 am to
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So the argument is that defendants shouldn't go free nor cases dismissed due to no fault of the prosecution


How is no fault of the prosecution? The prosecution and government set the time table for arrests, trial dates, deadlines for evidence, weight of evidence, admission of evidence, and much more. If they had their shite together, they wouldn’t start prosecution until they had everything ready to avoid unnecessary delays.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:18 am to
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davyjones


Correct. Same thing happening in my field with complying with Federal requirements regarding Public Hearings and complying with other statutes that are problematic with shutdowns and isolations in place. Examples on the Civil side just the ones cited on the Criminal side. But the left will distort this and make it sinister like they’ve done everything else.
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