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re: Just to be clear:
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:58 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:58 pm to SallysHuman
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You're gonna need to spell this out, I really don't track where you're going with this.
The family is being used, at a time of profound heart wrenching grief, to further the agenda of despicable people who truly don't care a frick about the death of the family member.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:58 pm to Indefatigable
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It MUST be a sinister conspiracy
You seem to be rather quick to dismiss it. Why is that?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:58 pm to Indefatigable
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No intelligent person thinks that.
No intelligent person absolutely rules it out, either.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:59 pm to idlewatcher
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You seem to be rather quick to dismiss it. Why is that?
Because accident is infinitely more plausible and there is absolutely no indication of foul play from information that has been released.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:01 pm to SallysHuman
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No intelligent person absolutely rules it out, either.
The chance isn’t zero. But there is no indication whatsoever of that at this time.
But on here, everything that ever happens is a conspiracy so I’m not surprised posters are caught up in believing that.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:01 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Yeah, I'd say a far better way of taking care of the soldier and family would be to release all 3 names at the same time. And if anything, not go into deep detail about who was flying/navigating, and who wasn't. All we truly know is that the crew chief wasn't flying it... but technically wasn't he supposed to be the spotter? If you KNEW there was an incoming jet to one side, I'd say he's supposed to go locate it.quote:
I would NOT let people be thinking she killed 60+ people on purpose, or that she was anything other than doing her best.
You have a good point, I honestly didn't think of it like that.
And if the male pilot is not actually piloting but is observing and evaluating, isn't he supposed to catch that the chopper is a) off course too near a busy airport, and b) at the wrong elevation, again near a busy airport? Meaning, the chopper is in extreme danger and corrections need to be made now?
In other words, if you want to spread blame, there's plenty to go around. Shielding this individual's name will not protect anything, it will create suspicions of greater wrongdoing.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:02 pm to March1st
I certainly hope that is not the case.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:02 pm to Indefatigable
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No intelligent person thinks that.
Would not let anyone.
If you don't have kids you won't understand.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:03 pm to Narax
quote:I do, but I recognize that I can’t do anything about idiots on the internet.
If you don't have kids you won't understand.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:04 pm to Scoob
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Yeah, I'd say a far better way of taking care of the soldier and family would be to release all 3 names at the same time. And if anything, not go into deep detail about who was flying/navigating, and who wasn't.
I agree with this, wholeheartedly.
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Shielding this individual's name will not protect anything, it will create suspicions of greater wrongdoing.
And this, too.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:05 pm to Indefatigable
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I do, but I recognize that I can’t do anything about idiots on the internet.
You are a crappy parent.
Flat out, sorry it hurts, your kids deserve better than you.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:15 pm to Indefatigable
Ignoring the 200ft max helicopter flight rule seems a bit foul
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:19 pm to March1st
https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/1iemff9/at_the_request_of_the_family_the_army_will_not_be/
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I am aware of the name.
Do not get cute. Do not post it. Do not hint at it. Do not describe her background.
Don’t do it.
Got it... Background is a trigger...
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:22 pm to March1st
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So the family of the female pilot objects to her name being mentioned
It doesn’t work like that.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:23 pm to Indefatigable
The families of the victims deserve to know who all were part of the accident that led to the deaths of their loved ones.
Just saying.. one family's right to have their fallen's name withheld should probably go away if that fallen one may have indirectly or directly been involved in something that led to the deaths of many innocent people.
Just saying.. one family's right to have their fallen's name withheld should probably go away if that fallen one may have indirectly or directly been involved in something that led to the deaths of many innocent people.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:24 pm to Viator106
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Ignoring the 200ft max helicopter flight rule seems a bit foul
Complacency and misidentification of the aircraft is infinitely more likely than some random black hawk crew deciding to kill a plane full of figure skaters and hunters from Wichita….no?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:25 pm to Plx1776
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The families of the victims deserve to know who all were part of the accident that led to the deaths of their loved ones.
And they undoubtedly will. But no, the public is not “entitled” to that information with 72 hours.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:27 pm to Indefatigable
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I can’t do anything about idiots on the internet.
You are one of them if you don't think that flying above the altitude allowed and even remotely being in the vicinity of a descending plane isn't plausible for this NOT being an accident.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:29 pm to Indefatigable
This argument doesn't make sense. The plane that people are saying the helicopter misidentified as the one it hit was at a higher elevation. Misidentifying the planes would still have not given them a reason to go above the hard deck.
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