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re: Just got a call. Mom has Covid. Uncle and aunt just getting over Covid. All had vaccines.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:53 am to Ag Zwin
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:53 am to Ag Zwin
It has not been reported that the vaccine is a surefire method to keep a person from contracting COVID.
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Developing immunity through vaccination means there is a reduced risk of developing the illness and its consequences. This immunity helps you fight the virus if exposed.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:53 am to Ag Zwin
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Just got a call. Mom has Covid. Uncle and aunt just getting over Covid. All had vaccines.
I’m starting to have doubts and second thoughts about stuff...
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:55 am to Ag Zwin
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My point is more to push back on the narrative that the vaccines, in and of themselves, are what is going to keep everyone safe.
You just stated the doc said the vaccine could have saved your Uncle's life but want to push back on the "narrative"
quote:The vaccine isn't 100% going to stop everyone from getting COVID, you're basically making up the narratives so you can shoot them down.
and there were still going to be cases like my family, ie, not 100% effective.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:58 am to Ag Zwin
The push for higher vaccination rates just don’t seem to be backed by necessity. Our hospitals can clearly handle (and have clearly handled) COVID-19.
Unless hospitalizations start to spike again and hospitals start having capacity issues, there really isn’t more to do. The vaccine did its job. The vulnerable ones (and people who were concerned in general) have received their vaccine if they wanted it. Continuing to push the vaccine is way more about control than it is about health. Places like NO, refusing to open fully back up until “x” % is vaccinated is purely based on feelings and extreme caution. The data shows COVID not being a serious concern for some time but yet they continue to demand more vaccinations.
Unless hospitalizations start to spike again and hospitals start having capacity issues, there really isn’t more to do. The vaccine did its job. The vulnerable ones (and people who were concerned in general) have received their vaccine if they wanted it. Continuing to push the vaccine is way more about control than it is about health. Places like NO, refusing to open fully back up until “x” % is vaccinated is purely based on feelings and extreme caution. The data shows COVID not being a serious concern for some time but yet they continue to demand more vaccinations.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:58 am to shel311
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The vaccine isn't 100% going to stop everyone from getting COVID, you're basically making up the narratives so you can shoot them down.
Weird that the Polio and Smallpox vaccines work this way (both effectively eradicated by vaccine) but this one doesn't ...
Almost like it isn't a vaccine ... but more of a therapeutic marketed as a vaccine.
SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:06 am to shel311
Wow. You really can’t read anything as other than binary, huh?
I’ll type it slowly for you.
Many, many voices have made it seem like the vaccines were the panacea that would fix everything. In many cases, once you get past the headline, you can see that their point was that it would not be 100% effective, but would provide the overall net needed. Several others, though, especially in things like tweets and such, left much less room for nuance, and so much of the hard left have insisted that anything less than full “compliance” with vaccines would mean masks and shutdowns continue.
If you’d stop and think for a minute, you’d see that my point here, stated at least twice, is to push back on this simplistic notion. Nowhere have I seriously stated that I expected vaccines to be 100% OR that they were useless. My point has been just the opposite. They are a difference maker, but not 100%.
Jesus, man. Stop being “that guy”.
I’ll type it slowly for you.
Many, many voices have made it seem like the vaccines were the panacea that would fix everything. In many cases, once you get past the headline, you can see that their point was that it would not be 100% effective, but would provide the overall net needed. Several others, though, especially in things like tweets and such, left much less room for nuance, and so much of the hard left have insisted that anything less than full “compliance” with vaccines would mean masks and shutdowns continue.
If you’d stop and think for a minute, you’d see that my point here, stated at least twice, is to push back on this simplistic notion. Nowhere have I seriously stated that I expected vaccines to be 100% OR that they were useless. My point has been just the opposite. They are a difference maker, but not 100%.
Jesus, man. Stop being “that guy”.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:08 am to Herooftheday
I hope you’re just trying to clear up your round worm infestation by taking ivermectin- and then hang a sign around your neck that lets everyone know what a dumbass you are.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:09 am to Ag Zwin
A buddy of mine at work got COVID the same week as his scheduled second shot.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:10 am to lsufan31
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I hope you’re just trying to clear up your round worm infestation by taking ivermectin- and then hang a sign around your neck that lets everyone know what a dumbass you are.
So the reports we hear about drugs like ivermectin being effective in lessening the severity of Covid are bunk?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:11 am to lsufan31
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I hope you’re just trying to clear up your round worm infestation by taking ivermectin- and then hang a sign around your neck that lets everyone know what a dumbass you are.
Again, don't let science get in the way of the narrative, amirite?
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Ivermectin proposes many potentials effects to treat a range of diseases, with its antimicrobial, antiviral, and anti-cancer properties as a wonder drug. It is highly effective against many microorganisms including some viruses. In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1. Ivermectin plays a role in several biological mechanisms, therefore it could serve as a potential candidate in the treatment of a wide range of viruses including COVID-19 as well as other types of positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses. In vivo studies of animal models revealed a broad range of antiviral effects of ivermectin, however, clinical trials are necessary to appraise the potential efficacy of ivermectin in clinical setting.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:13 am to Ag Zwin
He’s a radical leftist. He can’t stop being that guy.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:13 am to AmishSamurai
Im a fricking medical laboratory scientist- and you should do a little more research.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:16 am to lsufan31
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Im a fricking medical laboratory scientist- and you should do a little more research.
So you have a published paper contrary to what was just posted?
If so, share the link. If not, get working on it ...
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:17 am to lsufan31
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Im a fricking medical laboratory scientist- and you should do a little more research.
So what research would that be? The general posts from FDA that ivermectin isn’t approved for Covid or saying that animal grade ivermectin isn’t really for human consumption?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:17 am to STEVED00
And hydroxychloraquine- you’re willing to use these drugs for experimental treatment of covid, but never trust the vaccine.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:20 am to STEVED00
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So what research would that be? The general posts from FDA that ivermectin isn’t approved for Covid or saying that animal grade ivermectin isn’t really for human consumption?
The FDA and NIH is made up of political wonks who couldn't get jobs at any of the big Pharma organizations and are there to run interference/marketing ...
I wouldn't trust the FDA to run a hotdog stand, let alone conduct actual research on anything. They're government bureaucrats first and researchers about 10th ...
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:21 am to roadGator
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He’s a radical leftist. He can’t stop being that guy.
It boggles my mind how some people are just seemingly hardwired to look for conflict and absolutes. How do they get through daily life this way?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:38 am to lsufan31
You dont talk or use the vocabulary as one with the required discipline and education to be what you claim to be.
I, however, have access to the research and findings of practicing medical doctors, including my personal doctor.
Send me the link to the 10 question medical laboratory scientist accreditation quiz you took. I'll let you know if I'm one too.
I, however, have access to the research and findings of practicing medical doctors, including my personal doctor.
Send me the link to the 10 question medical laboratory scientist accreditation quiz you took. I'll let you know if I'm one too.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:40 am to lsufan31
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And hydroxychloraquine- you’re willing to use these drugs for experimental treatment of covid, but never trust the vaccine
The covid vaccine is an experimental vaccine. I'm one of the many that are watching the human trials play out. Much data.
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