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Just got a call. Mom has Covid. Uncle and aunt just getting over Covid. All had vaccines.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:39 pm
I’m starting to have doubts and second thoughts about stuff...
Just kidding. I’ve suspected it was a boondoggle for a long time.
Just kidding. I’ve suspected it was a boondoggle for a long time.
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:43 pm to Ag Zwin
If your mom gets worse tell the Dr to give her Ivermectin. If the Dr says NO, then get another Dr.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:45 pm to Ag Zwin
The two mRNA vaccines are 90% effective. In that regard, they are actually more effective than most vaccines. They also reduce severity for those infected. But pay no attention to what's happened in Israel and the UK with successful vaccine rollouts and COVID case counts. 
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:46 pm to Ag Zwin
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Mom
quote:you know the drill
aunt
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:47 pm to obdobd918
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If your mom gets worse tell the Dr to give her Ivermectin
No, don’t wait at all. Get it now.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:48 pm to Ag Zwin
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All had vaccines
Liar. If they aren't working in icu or er, we cannot believe it.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:53 pm to Ag Zwin
The fact they are pushing the vaccines so hard should make everyone think about it . Even some of the liberals are scared to get it .
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:55 pm to Lou Pai
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The two mRNA vaccines are 90% effective. In that regard, they are actually more effective than most vaccines. They also reduce severity for those infected. But pay no attention to what's happened in Israel and the UK with successful vaccine rollouts and COVID case counts.
Yeah, I’m overstating it for the jollies. Doc says that probably lessened the impact enough for my uncle to save his life. Big time immunity issues with RA and biologics.
Never let actual facts get in the way of a narrative. Pretty sure I learned that somewhere....
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:57 pm to Ag Zwin
I hear ya. I don't think anyone should be forced to get the vaccine but it's a damn miracle drug. In conjuction with prior infections, it's rendered COVID as irrelevant and feckless as the flu at this point. If we aren't at herd immunity nationally we are damn close. That's great to hear about your uncle by the way.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:32 pm to Ag Zwin
Sure guy. Sure.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:34 pm to Ag Zwin
How are their symptoms? Not severe I hope.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:39 pm to Ag Zwin
No one has ever claimed that the vaccines are 100% effective. The Moderna and Pfizer dual treatments are about 95% effective, That means out of 20 people who receive the vaccine 19 will be protected and 1 won’t. Weird coincidence that you have three in your family, but the statistics are overwhelming that the vaccines are working as advertised.
Additionally, those who get vaccinated and catch the disease usually have reduced symptoms.
Additionally, those who get vaccinated and catch the disease usually have reduced symptoms.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:44 pm to Lou Pai
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They also reduce severity for those infected
How do they know it reduces severity? What if that person just doesn't have severe or any symptoms. Its the same if its said that it increases severity. Just as true. Ive never understood how they can compare symptoms if the person can't be infected with AND without a vaccine. I've seen this of the flu vaccine. You can't compare reality to a hypothetical.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:52 pm to Ag Zwin
Of the vastly small minority of people who are vaccinated and end up getting COVID, a surprisingly large number appear to be related to posters on here.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:55 pm to Herooftheday
quote:My 74 y/o mother got it. Other than feeling tired, no real symptoms. Got over it pretty quick. My 75 y/o dad got it too. He's ha COPD and has had 3 open heart surgeries. He got supplemental oxygen to use at home because his O2 sats dropped. Theor doctor wouldn't even see them. They just spent two weeks crappie fishing.
How do they know it reduces severity? What if that person just doesn't have severe or any symptoms. Its the same if its said that it increases severity. Just as true. Ive never understood how they can compare symptoms if the person can't be infected with AND without a vaccine. I've seen this of the flu vaccine. You can't compare reality to a hypothetical
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:56 pm to Damone
Mother in law is HR at a contractor company that works shut downs for large plants saying the same thing. Vaccinated workers are getting covid and they had been encouraging them to get the vaccine to avoid covid downtime. She just got over covid but she's unvaccinated. It's a mystery
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:58 pm to Ag Zwin
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Doc says that probably lessened the impact enough for my uncle to save his life. Big time immunity issues with RA and biologics.
So why do you think it is a boondoggle?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So why do you think it is a boondoggle?
Poor phrasing on my part. More like I never regarded this as THE silver bullet. Many other factors helping (herd immunity, etc.) and there were still going to be cases like my family, ie, not 100% effective.
My point is more to push back on the narrative that the vaccines, in and of themselves, are what is going to keep everyone safe.
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