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re: Just for clarity, “big government” is not ICE operating on a mandate of the voters…

Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:22 pm to
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Lol this is the very definition of big government


Conservatives have always been fine with government doing the tasks with which it is constitutionally tasked.

Immigration and border enforcement are some of those tasks.
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
2986 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:27 pm to
The principles are the same, much like the laws being upheld, as before. Wraslin' with LEOs while armed has always been a high risk scenario. Same as before.

Calling it by another name only makes you feel like your prophecy of a nazi king is coming true, because all your eggs have been in one basket the entire time ;)

Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13263 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:02 pm to
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Are you saying that’s when you’ll take a stand?

I'm saying information has been posted about a memo concerning this but the memo itself was not shown.

Is it happening or is it made up bullshite?

I don't prefer to waste my time arguing about made up bullshite.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:51 pm to
If the memo is just as the media presented it, we would have jpeg images of it on every internet news site.

We don’t.

Ergo, it’s not as they presented it.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13263 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:36 am to
Correct.

rwestmore7 knows this and still acts like a fool.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:48 am to
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Conservatives went from “universal healthcare is tyranny of the majority” to “we can shoot you for videoing us with your phone” real quick


You are leaving out some key context for some reason
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29232 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:08 am to
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Big Government


I'll tell you what Big Government is. When you already have vast government agencies charged with law enforcement and protection of the homeland like the FBI, the Justice Department, the CIA, Treasury Department, Secret Service, ATF, and the U.S Armed Forces...you create an whole other vast government agency with its own Cabinet Secretary and 240,000 employees in response to a terror attack. That is literally what Big Government is.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37621 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:39 am to
Big Government is establishing DHS to begin with.

Big Government is giving the government enhanced surveillance capacity to "keep us safe"

Big Government is increasing funds for DHS and therefore ICE to begin with and statutory expansion of their powers....or in this case a generous interpretation.

Big Government is the governing class telling the voters, "Oh you want increased erosion of your liberties under the guise of safety.....we thought you'd NEVER ask"
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:51 am to
Retard take.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3439 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:04 am to
If Congress can just pass a law that says that illegal immigrants cannot vote in any elections and cannot be counted in the census then the Democrats will kick them to the curb. unfortunately, our Congress is useless.


Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37621 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:57 am to
Accurate

You're all for increased state activity now that your "team" has the ball . Whether it is ICE / CBP being used as an intimidation force or the government becoming stock holders in private companies.

You are probably right up there with SDV.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:01 am to
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You're all for increased state activity now that your "team" has the ball . Whether it is ICE / CBP being used as an intimidation force or the government becoming stock holders in private companies.


The obvious difference is the target: illegal immigrants vs normal Americans.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:05 am to
So you would look for another excuse to move the goal post. Got it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:20 am to
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You're all for increased state activity now that your "team" has the ball .


I’m for the Federal government doing tasks allotted to the Federal government.

I have $100 that during Obama’s admin, you backed the Federal government being the sole arm of law enforcement against illegal immigration and were against states trying to protect themselves against illegal immigration.

You’re a “my porridge is just right” moderate. You don’t have an ideology. You’re just picking a middle and pretending to be consistent.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8209 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:25 am to
Marxist/Democrat plan was to flood the country with an open border. Not require voter ID. Have these people vote. Fund them all with tax payer dollars.
Then when the time came and someone declared the obvious, the plan was to scream due process, civil rights and racism.

It’s brilliantly evil.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:30 am to
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Big Government is allowing the importation of tens of millions of people who will be defacto wards of the state and continue to vote one party rule until we all suffer under the boot of the DNC/uni party.



There are two classes/groups....it's US and Them.

US are largely the unwoke middle-class who are trying to preserve the constitutional republic in the vision and manner our founders intended. Them are the people who loathe everything US stands for.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:47 am to
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Draconian Sanction


Interesting to see you in a thread like this playing the “moderate” card again.

You and other posters called me a retard for not wanting to shut down the world during Covid. There wasn’t a mandate that you didn’t support, down to letting people out of their homes. “It’s a novel virus retard, quit watching Faux news” was one of many comments you made.

Now this is your stance?

Lolololol
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:50 am to
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Marxist/Democrat plan was to flood the country with an open border. Not require voter ID. Have these people vote. Fund them all with tax payer dollars.
Then when the time came and someone declared the obvious, the plan was to scream due process, civil rights and racism.

It’s brilliantly evil.


About 20 years ago, I started several threads on the evil genius of Progressive leaders. This was something I called out. As a former progressive voter, I can tell you that’s always been the plan.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:13 am to
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Big Government is establishing DHS to begin with.

Big Government is giving the government enhanced surveillance capacity to "keep us safe"

Big Government is increasing funds for DHS and therefore ICE to begin with and statutory expansion of their powers....or in this case a generous interpretation.

Big Government is the governing class telling the voters, "Oh you want increased erosion of your liberties under the guise of safety.....we thought you'd NEVER ask"


ALL spot on and factual.

All started under The Patriot Act (was never even read.) It used the same excuse to erode civil liberties under the same guise of, "to keep you safe!".

And now the War Dept has decided to expand its base of operations. IN MINNESOTA.

War Secretary Hegseth Greenlights Minnesota Military Base As Op Center For Migrant Crackdown

"Migrant Crackdown" OR as a future operation base to enforce Martial Law?

quote:

“The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) requests support from the Department of War (DoW) to provide existing infrastructure to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), a component of DHS, specifically an area for parking approximately 300-500 vehicles and 10 storage trailers, a ready room space for approximal 500-800 CBP personnel, a space to house, maintain and operate five CBP Air Assets, access to a magazine to store munitions, and other necessary facilities to support operations in the Minneapolis, Minnesota metropolitan area,” the email said.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8209 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:16 am to
What made you change your voting habits?
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