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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:12 pm to
speculation is not evidence.
Posted by burdhead
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:14 pm to
its not a theory....there is nothing in existence in all of the physical reality that we live in and on....they come from the other side of the dimensional veil....as a sidebar, go read revelation 9 and piece it together with the words of the quantum physicists working at CERN.....
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:15 pm to
Of course not

But a city full of fused brick, people frozen in place and high radiation levels is

So are the green glass sheets in the desert

So are the written texts

Does not mean my conclusion is for sure accurate, but to deny that evidence exists is foolish
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:16 pm to
I believe the Roswell incident was in fact a military craft of some sort. Kecksburg UFO is so similar to the Nazi Bell that it makes me wonder if all of this is connected via reverse engineering between US and USSR post WW2.
I mean we took the German rocket engineers and got to the moon. Who knows what else Hitler's minions were working on.

Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:16 pm to
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That's cool but maybe you will believe they exist if someday you are lucky enough to see one from so close that you can't deny that they exist.

I hope so. I'd be flat-out thrilled to see a UFO.
Posted by 3Son
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:18 pm to
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I disagree.

And no, I don't have proof


I mean, you're welcome to your opinion but let's not pretend there's a factual basis behind it. You just want to believe, so you do.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Then the ridiculing of the eyewitnesses begin.


Notice how this type of sighting went down once everyone had a camera at their fingertips?

Exactly.

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Are you 100% certain that type of UFO doesn't exist and has only been seen by drunkards?


Yes.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:20 pm to


This would creep me out and it's already known of.


But this can't be a B-2, can it?
Trailing edges look different.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:22 pm to
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erup
Of course not

But a city full of fused brick, people frozen in place and high radiation levels is

So are the green glass sheets in the desert

So are the written texts

Does not mean my conclusion is for sure accurate, but to deny that evidence exists is foolish


Again it is much more like speculation, to claim it as evidence is much more foolish. It is more likely astroid/meteor strikes or volcanoes than ancient peoples who had hidden ancient tech and so wiped themselves out.

and your quotes are from philosophical texts, which if were gonna start claiming as evidence then it was definately Zeus screwing with us and claiming evidence of anything else is foolish.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

But a city full of fused brick, people frozen in place and high radiation levels is

So are the green glass sheets in the desert

So are the written texts


None of this is accurate. And we don't have written texts earlier than the third millennium BC.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:33 pm to
It is not speculation, you saying that almost makes it seem that you don't understand that meaning of the word

I'm not trying to be ugly here, but get real

The evidence is nothing more than evidence

What conclusions are drawn based on that evidence is speculation- see the difference?

Read up on the radiation from the city in India, that is what caused me to take this theory seriously

The artifacts found all over the world that suggest high technology are also pretty compelling

You can explain away the evidence and conclude that it does not amount to enough to convince you, but to say there is zero evidence is flat out wrong
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:36 pm to
All of it is accurate, your denials do not change facts

Also, I have already pointed out that Robert Oppenheimer held the same belief

Perhaps you believe you have more knowledge of the evidence that is out there than he did
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:39 pm to
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go read revelation 9 and piece it together with the words of the quantum physicists working at CERN.....


Why don't you do it for us?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:40 pm to
Those tablets are closer to 8 or 10 thousand years old
Posted by burdhead
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:41 pm to
you can't read?....i see you are from louisiana but surely there is someone you know that can read it to you
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:42 pm to
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All of it is accurate, your denials do not change facts


You're not using facts, you're using fever dreams. There is zero evidence of written records before the Sumerians. There is no evidence of civilization older than a few thousand years BC. Period.

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Also, I have already pointed out that Robert Oppenheimer held the same belief


And? Stephen Hawking is an atheist, does that mean that automatically every theocrat is wrong?



Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:42 pm to
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Those tablets are closer to 8 or 10 thousand years old


Source? They're approx. 5200 years old, the writing was not developed before then.

You can't write on a tablet in a language 3-5,000 years before said language existed.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 8:43 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:43 pm to
You don't really seem to have a functioning understanding of the two words.

Evidence: the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

Speculation: the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

You don't have evidence indicating any validity in your proposition. I will be very generous conceding that you are starting with an observation or observations of others, and applying it to your speculation. You are concluding that evidence of radiation or green glass supports your speculation which does not make it evidence, its still speculation.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:43 pm to
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Are you 100% certain that type of UFO doesn't exist and has only been seen by drunkards?


quote:

Are you 100% certain that people saying they saw this, actually saw this?


I don't respond to a question when it is asked in response to a question I asked.

Answer my question first then I'll answer your question.
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