re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

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Here's another video of the phoenix lights and you can hear what some of the eyewitnesses are saying as they film them.

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The former Cal quarterback flew to the East Coast for the interview and while he was there, he was staying with the family of former Cal teammate Steve Levy. And I'll let Rodgers take it from here.

"We were winding down at dinner and then there was a weird siren in the distance, so we go outside -- it was a snowy night -- and we went outside and it was one of those bright nights, where it's overcast, but there's enough light from the moon to see things and the next thing you know, we saw something in the sky," Rodgers said.

This wasn't just anything, though. The Packers quarterback is 100 percent convinced he saw a UFO.
"It was a large orange, left-to-right-moving object. Because of the overcast nature of the night and the snow, you couldn't make out, it was behind the clouds we were seeing, but it was definitively large in the night sky, moving from left to right," Rodgers said. "Again, it was like 12:30 at night here. It was me, Steve, and his brother that saw it."

That means there were a total of three witnesses.
"And it goes out of sight and we look at each other and go, 'What in the f--- was that?'" Rodgers said. "You could hear it moving. When it had been out of sight for like 30 seconds -- and when I say 30 seconds, it felt like five minutes -- at the time, we were kind of in shock."

According to Rodgers, the group then heard about four fighter jets overhead and he knew they were fighter jets because, "You know the sound of a fighter jet when it flies by," Rodgers said.

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It would be the ultimate troll if he "sighted it" again and AGAIN shot it in black and white and took photos with a 1980 Polaroid. LOL

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As usual, everything you say about me and the cameras I used are lies.

All of my videos are in color and the photos my brother took around 1986 (I'll post the exact dates later) were with an Instamatic camera because that was the only camera we had at the time.

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I carried a little Nikon with me in Iraq and Afghanistan. $100 and my pictures didn't look like I took them with a potato. I'd also guess that everything it went through was a little more rough than SF Bay can put out.

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Meh, you were't trying to photograph several objects with a hand held camera that were moving quickly in the water which were 1 1/2 to 3 miles away before the objects went underwater.

Besides, all of the videos can be slowed down to eliminate almost all of the shaking and every frame can be closely examined to determine all of the data they contain.

I even did a "Find Edges" version of the first video and it clearly shows the video is in focus and that several individual objects are part of the same large serpentine marine animal.

So you don't know what you are talking about.

You are just trying to "debunk" our sightings and videos just like debunkers say they have debunked the Phoenix Lights sighting and video.

You are a fricking joke!

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Every phone made today will get better pictures than anything he's offered. What was his excuse for having shite pictures?

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Something about the maritime environment and not wanting to risk expensive equipment or some such nonsense.

Dude spends years getting made fun of and then goes BACK out and gets 1950s era quality.

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You have to keep lying about what I said. I explained why we decided to buy an analog camera instead of a digital camera and it wasn't because I didn't want to risk expensive equipment in a maritime environment since we were going to be on land all the time and never on the water.

Now you can go back and lie about President Trump, Dufus!

When I saw Dawg posting in a "paranormal" thread, I just knew he would be talking about sea serpents. I love it.

dawgfaninca is the reason why aliens/ufo/paranormal stuff doesn't get taken seriously from the get go

Which is sad

because there are lots of unexplained things out there

I am almost certain that somebody or some people on this planet, whether they be a government or a private group or just an individual, is sitting on a piece of info that would be paradigm shifting if it were made public. Some info about a famous person, an event, a government, a scientific discovery, our past, or alien life.

I am confident there is info out there about any of those things (or all of them) that is being kept secret.

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dawgfaninca is the reason why aliens/ufo/paranormal stuff doesn't get taken seriously from the get go

Which is sad

because there are lots of unexplained things out there

I am almost certain that somebody or some people on this planet, whether they be a government or a private group or just an individual, is sitting on a piece of info that would be paradigm shifting if it were made public. Some info about a famous person, an event, a government, a scientific discovery, our past, or alien life.

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What's really sad is that I have some of the evidence you are seeking but you refuse to believe it.

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I am confident there is info out there about any of those things (or all of them) that is being kept secret.

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The government is keeping it secret.

Just contact the Eleventh District US Coast Guard and ask them if anyone has ever reported seeing a sea serpent in SF Bay to them and they will say no even though I have the evidence that proves my brother and I contacted them.

Go on! I dare you!

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All biased close-minded skeptics like you can do is ridicule me by laughing at me.

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You make arguments that are nonsense and completely unscientific.

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What arguments are you talking about?

That my brother and I both saw an unknown 60+ foot long serpentine marine animal expose its entire body except for its tail above the surface of the water directly in front of us and only 20 yards away from us when it beached itself on a submerged rocky ledge that was covered by only about 3 feet of water when it was chasing a sea lion?

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The reality is that the statistical likelihood that you saw a sea serpent near the shoreline multiple times and got truly shitty video of it but no one else in today's HD world has managed anything of the sort is absurdly small.

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The reality is my brother and I both saw these animals multiple times because we were smart enough to know we weren't sooo lucky that we saw the animal come into SF Bay the only time it came into SF Bay so we got our asses up in the morning during the winter months of November through March and staked out the location where we had our first sighting for two years. Then we had to take care of our small business so we stopped looking for the animals on a regular basis during the winter months but 18 years later we had our next sighting which we took the video of.

About 3 months later we were on the same hillside and had another sighting which was the second video we took and in 2009 we had another sighting and took our last video.

You can claim the videos are shitty but they are good enough to contain the evidence that proves sea serpents exist and an extraordinary claim only needs enough evidence to prove it is correct.

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Finally the fact that you hold eyewitness testimony as the be-all above statistical reality despite the fact that It is Well documented that eyewitness testimony is notoriously shitty is one more nail in your ridicule coffin.

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Your "statistical reality" means shite.

You can say eyewitness testimony is notoriously shitty and that may be true in some cases where only one person sees the object and the object is far away and only a small portion of the object is seen for a short period of time but I am talking about a multiple eyewitness sighting where both eyewitnesses saw the object from only 20 yards away for at least a minute and both eyewitnesses saw the animal expose its entire 60+ foot long body except for its tail above the surface of the water.

The description of the animal that was given by both eyewitnesses in a sighting like that is impossible to be wrong or inaccurate.

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And why small I mean a number with a decimal and a lot of zeros and then at 1.

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What magic hat did you pull that number out of?

The logic we used and the actions we took based on that logic made it almost a certainty that we would see the animal again.

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Eyewitnesses suck arse when witnessing crimes committed by humans and eyewitnesses know what humans look like and what to expect out of humans. But you moronically argue that I Witnesses are fantastic sources when viewing objects that buy your own description appear and disappear too fast for them to even get their cell phones out

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Like I just said, you can say eyewitness testimony is notoriously shitty and that may be true in some cases where only one person sees the object and the object is far away and only a small portion of the object is seen for a short period of time but I am talking about a multiple eyewitness sighting where both eyewitnesses saw the object from only 20 yards away for at least a minute and both eyewitnesses saw the animal expose its entire 60+ foot long body except for its tail above the surface of the water.

The description of the animal that was given by both eyewitnesses in a sighting like that is impossible to be wrong or inaccurate.

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So these Witnesses are seeing objects moving at Super rapid speeds for very brief periods of time and you are running around yelling about how people saw them.

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I don't know which witnesses and objects you are talking about but I am talking about my and my brother's first sighting which was from only 20 yards away, lasted at least a minute and we both saw the animal expose its entire 60+ foot long body except for its tail above the surface of the water.

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You get ridiculed because you earned the ridicule

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And you get called a fool because you don't know what you are talking about.

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It's funny because the human mind is a very strange thing. When I was a child and no I don't mean a small child but instead about 11 years old I saw the Easter Bunny hopping down the street

No I'm not fricking with you. I mean if you reached into my memory you would see that I absolutely for sure saw the Easter Bunny hopping down the street

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You probably saw someone dressed as the Easter bunny and because you were a young child you actually thought you saw the Easter bunny.

Even today, your memory makes you think you saw the real Easter bunny.

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I have no fricking idea why I remember such a ridiculous thing but you see there's the point. Regardless of what my memory tells me I have the good fricking sense to know I did NOT see the Easter bunny hopping down the street!!

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In my and my brother's case, we wrote down separate accounts of what we saw immediately after we had the first sighting and had the accounts notarized a few days later so we wouldn't have to worry about forgetting what we saw and so that we couldn't be accused of making up the sighting years later or being confused about what we saw.

That was smart for us to do, wasn't it?

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What's really sad is that I have some of the evidence you are seeking but you refuse to believe it.

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If this were true, you'd be famous for the discovery.

Your "evidence" isn't

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Just contact the Eleventh District US Coast Guard and ask them if anyone has ever reported seeing a sea serpent in SF Bay to them and they will say no even though I have the evidence that proves my brother and I contacted them.

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ROFLMAO