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re: Judges are trying to become president.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:09 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:09 am to AggieHank86
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In some segments, anyway.
Here is your chance to show you aren’t in that segment.
Who voted on the cbp one app?
Or was it introduced through unelected bureaucrats?
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:10 am to Bunk Moreland
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A lot of this is uncomfortable.
It is, but it needs to happen whether it's this issue or another one. If there's never any pushback there's no reason for the judiciary to exercise a little self discipline.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:10 am to Bunk Moreland
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A lot of this is uncomfortable. Trump is certainly pushing the envelope on some things. It's also difficult to discern (for me, at least) when the judges are following proper procedures/law or they are just pushing back on anything Trump.
Any other president deporting criminal aliens has not been uncomfortable until Trump does it.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:11 am to GumboPot
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Any other president deporting criminal aliens has not been uncomfortable until Trump does it.
Pretty sure he was talking about ignoring the judge.
Which I think he should have done, BTW.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:11 am to eddieray
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No one wants him going unchecked, not even the people that think they do.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:12 am to GumboPot
I'm not sure anyone has a problem with the administration deporting illegal criminals. There is precedent that this has been done before.
I think the issue is invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. That opens a whole can of worms. Who decides who is a foreign enemy? If it is an illegal, no problem? What about someone on a Visa, or someone that isn't a citizen but married to a US citizen?
I think the issue is invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. That opens a whole can of worms. Who decides who is a foreign enemy? If it is an illegal, no problem? What about someone on a Visa, or someone that isn't a citizen but married to a US citizen?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:12 am to Flats
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Pretty sure he was talking about ignoring the judge.
Which I think he should have done, BTW.
The Trump DOJ claims they did not ignore the judge FWIW.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:13 am to eddieray
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No one wants him going unchecked, not even the people that think they do.
Everyone agrees with us and if you don't it's just because your ignorant. It's the line of thinking that's gotten dems those outstanding pole numbers they have now.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:13 am to GumboPot
I'd like to see some history on that. Give me a president who just grabbed a plane full of people and sent them to a third country. I'd also like to know if ACLU or whoever was bankrolling this challenge has done that for anyone else.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:13 am to eddieray
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. No one wants him going unchecked, not even the people that think they do.
Ruling by EO will lead to this kind of reaction.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:13 am to GumboPot
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Any other president deporting criminal aliens has not been uncomfortable until Trump does it.
Which was the last President to deport a group of people subject to the AEA via designating them terrorists via the AUMF, delivering them to a jail in a foreign country? All of this without any due process.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:14 am to Bunk Moreland
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plane full of people
This was just a plane full of random ppl?
Holy frick
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:14 am to AggieHank86
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statutes enacted by the American people acting through their elected representatives in Congress.
With a minimum of 3 decades of questionable election results and Uniparty rule since Reagan - at a minimum) that ship sailed some time ago.
Right now in Congress, we don't know who's duly elected and who are useful idiots installed because they are easily controlled to enact an agenda.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:15 am to SDVTiger
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This was just a plane full of random ppl?
Holy frick
Some of them may have been random people
The Feds' Legal Arguments for These Deportations Are Laughably Weak
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In some cases, those individuals were deported simply for being in the same car or house as other suspects. In others, a Trump administration official admits that there is little specific evidence tying some deportees to any crime—and then, incredibly, argues that the lack of evidence should be taken as proof of criminality.
"The lack of a criminal record does not indicate they pose a limited threat," wrote Robert L. Cerna, an acting field office director for ICE, in a sworn affidavit filed in federal district court in Washington, D.C., on Monday night. Cerna goes on to write that "the lack of specific information about each individual actually highlights the risk they pose. It demonstrates that they are terrorists with regard to whom we lack a complete profile."
That's a laughably weak argument. Cerna is arguing that the Trump administration has the power to deport any immigrant suspected of having ties to the Tren de Aragua gang, even if the evidence is thin and never proven in any court.
Imagine siting on a jury and being told by the prosecution that there would be no evidence presented of any crimes being committed, but that you should simply take the prosecutors' word that the suspect seems like a bad guy. Any reasonable juror would vote to acquit—if the judge didn't laugh the prosecutors out of court first.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:16 am
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:16 am to SDVTiger
It's more of the terrorist designation I am uncomfortable with. I think somebody mentioned in a thread that a handful of people were NOT put on the plane. I'd like to know how the administration decided who went and who stayed.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:16 am to AggieHank86
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there would be no problem revising the statutes that are preventing him from acting unilaterally.
There are no statutes preventing the president from doing what he is doing. What we are witnessing is a group of judges who have been paid off (even if through their children) to rule against Trump at every turn.
F those judges and Trump should completely ignore them. Tell the judges to drive down to Venezuela and pick them up themselves..
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:16 am to Bunk Moreland
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It's more of the terrorist designation I am uncomfortable with. I think somebody mentioned in a thread that a handful of people were NOT put on the plane. I'd like to know how the administration decided who went and who stayed.
As I kept asking yesterday, if these decisions are not reviewable for their legality, what happens when the admin makes a mistake? What i the recourse?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:16 am to Bunk Moreland
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a plane full of people
So there's no common thread to the folks who ended up on the tarmac in jumpsuits and escorted into CECOT?
Damn, you could get a gig at MSNBC on the spot.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:17 am to FooManChoo
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In fact, Trump’s complaint is that these unelected judges are not being checked but are doing precisely what Trump’s critics are accusing him of by exceeding their authority.
Exactly! Who’s checking the judges. They are unelected. Roberts was a bitch for making the comment on impeachment.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:17 am to dgnx6
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When did we vote to fly illegals in on planes?
Somehow we don’t ever get an answer to this simple question. Because leftists scum are retards.
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