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Judge tosses dems suit contesting using military funds to build wall

Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:48 am
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:48 am
Judge McFadden threw out dems suit citing a political clash which has legislative remedies rather than judicial. Per Fox.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:52 am to
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threw out dems suit
Good now build that wall.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:59 am to
Memories

And who is gonna pay for it?!


All together now...... Americans!!!!!
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25982 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:05 am to
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Memories

And who is gonna pay for it?!


All together now...... Americans!!!!!


Mexico tariffs just paid for it but thanks for keeping up your narrative anyway.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:17 am to
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Mexico tariffs just paid for it but thanks for keeping up your narrative anyway


Sure they did.
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:30 am to
Have you ever lived on the border?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:25 am to
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And who is gonna pay for it?!


I'll be willing to bet it wont be you!

Seriously people around here bitch and moan like they are actually paying some taxes.

Unless you are in the upper 5% of tax payers you don't pay shite.

Want to know who will pay for the wall?
The rich. Just like they pay for everything else in our system.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 9:11 am
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14994 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:57 am to
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Memories

And who is gonna pay for it?!


All together now...... Americans!!!!!



You freeloading liberals ain't never paid for something out of your own pocket in your sad, pathetic lives. Stop that fake whining bullshite
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:19 am to
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You freeloading liberals ain't never paid for something out of your own pocket in your sad, pathetic lives. Stop that fake whining bullshite


So if the companies carrying these goods that are tarriffed dont pass the tarriffs along to the American consumer, who do you believe it will get passed on to?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:00 am to
CAVEOT: The following is based upon several news articles from outlets on both sides of the aisle. I have not yet found and read the actual Order.

The decision seems to be based entirely upon standing and the fact that no damages have yet accrued to the House because no funds have been spent yet. As such, this judge says that the House lacks standing to challenge the Emergency Declaration in court.

This ruling seems to be in conflict with an earlier ruling from the same District (different judge) that DID find the House to have standing to challenge Obamacare. (Both judges were GOP appointments). That conflict likely means a speedy appeal.

One could argue that the cases are NOT inconsistent, because funds HAD been expended in the Obamacare case. Under that theory, Congress could simply re-file as soon as any National Emergency Act money is expended on the Wall.

A California court has already ruled that private citizens DO have standing re the Emergency Declaration, and this judge said that Congress can always file amicus briefs in that private litigation.

The ruling also seems to turn in part upon the fact that Congress has a political remedy which is not available to private litigants, which makes perfect sense given that this is a case seeking an injunction. Injunctions are generally allowed only when no other remedy is available.

All in all, the ruling makes sense.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 8:31 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:06 am to
Guess what I haven't heard in awhile; the Taco Bell "Run for the Border" commercial
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98785 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:07 am to
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A California court has already ruled that private citizens DO have standing re the Emergency Declaration


A ridiculous fricking ruling
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:50 am to
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So if the companies carrying these goods that are tarriffed dont pass the tarriffs along to the American consumer, who do you believe it will get passed on to?
If the tarriffs rise to a certain point, it will be cheaper to build them in the USA. Sorry, but I'm sick of paying for cheap goods that fall apart in months. I'd rather pay the price for American-made goods that last decades or longer.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6794 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:54 am to
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Memories

And who is gonna pay for it?!


All together now...... Americans!!!!!


I'd be okay with that too, if it were the case. That's still better than continuing to accomplish nothing and offer crappy alternatives like your politicians.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:25 am to
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A California court has already ruled that private citizens DO have standing re the Emergency Declaration



A ridiculous fricking ruling
Agreed!
The citizens do have legislative alternatives through their REPRESENTATION on their taxation. That is the whole point of the House being Representative of the People and Senate being Representative of the States (individual entities).

If citizens have standing to oppose, what about the citizens who support? Duh!!! Legislative Representation for both! Maybe private citizens should elect better Representatives!
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4551 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:36 am to
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I'll be willing to bet it wont be you! Seriously people around her bitch and moan like they are actually paying some taxes. Unless you are in the upper 5% of tax payers you don't pay shite.


You are kidding right? My tax bracket of 24% impacts my family, and I certainly don't belive I fall in that upper 5% you cite. Thanks.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:51 am to
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And who is gonna pay for it?!


All together now...... Americans!!!!!



And why shouldn't we? We will be the ones to benefit from it will we not? Do you expect someone outside the U.S. to pay for our infrastructure such as highways because much of the products moved on those highways is foreign made and imported to the states?

When you give other people the right to say how something is regulated because they helped pay for it you give up a lot of your rights. I don't want to be indebted to anyone other than myself. If our government used that approach we wouldn't be in the pickle that we're now in with trade and whatnot. I guarantee you if the Messicans paid for the wall they would have a substantial say concerning our immigration scenario from our southern border. Undoubtedly you have no clue of what taking care of your own means.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:54 am to
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And who is gonna pay for it?!

All together now...... Americans!!!!!


Worth every penny, too.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:58 am to
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Judge tosses dems

Fingers crossed
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:05 am to
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Memories

And who is gonna pay for it?!


All together now...... Americans!!!!!



I know it takes a few steps...BUT, the moment that ILLEGAL immigration is seriously curtailed, Mexico begins "paying for it". There is a reason Mexico assists the illegal immigration. They actually have people on our soil promoting the ways to get around some obstacles. It is because REMITTANCES are a major source of hard currency into the country. Cut that down, and Mexico is paying dearly.


In fact, I believe there should be a 100% tax on remittances to Mexico without documentation of the one sending.
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