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Judge Sullivan would love to burn Flynn

Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:02 pm
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People on this board think Sullivan is an ally or sympathetic to Flynn for some reason? Sullivan is 100% on the prosecutions side and Flynn could still possibly get jail time. Let me say this, that you folks live in fantasy land and completely miscalculated the 302 business etc.. I support General Flynn and know he lied to protect his President but let me tell you, this judge was simply crossing the T’s and dotting the I’s by asking for the 302 reports.

Here is the judge today - read closely


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“All along, you were an unregistered agent of a foreign country while serving as the national security advisor to the president of the United States," Sullivan told Flynn, referring to the other case, for which Flynn was not charged.

"That undermines everything this flag over here stands for," the judge said. "Arguably you sold your country out."

Sullivan told Flynn that if he did not accept an offer to postpone his ongoing sentencing hearing, "I cannot assure you that if you proceed today, you will not receive a sentence of incarceration."

"This is a very serious offense," said Sullivan.

"A high ranking senior official of the government making false statements to the Federal Bureau of Investigation while in the White House," Sullivan said.

"Very serious crime," Sullivan told the 60-year-old retired Army lieutenant general. "Can't minimize that."

"I'm not hiding my disgust, my disdain," the judge said.

"Hypothetically could he have been charged with treason?" Sullivan asked prosecutor Brandon Van Grack.

Van Grack answered, "Because It's such a serious question, I am hesitant from answering."

Sullivan later said: "I wasn't suggesting he was committing treason. I was just curious if he could have been charged. Lots of conspiracy theories out there. Not taking any uncalled offenses into consideration. Was trying to consider benefit. I'm not suggesting treason. "

Van Grack said, "The government has no reason to believe the defendant committed treason."



Here is the part where Flynn and his Lawyer deny entrapment by FBI.


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Before that, Van Grack, told Sullivan that "it remains a possibility" that Flynn could continue to cooperate with Mueller's ongoing investigations even after being sentenced.

Van Grack noted that Flynn, in addition to other significant assistance to Mueller, had "provided substantial assistance" to federal prosecutors in Virginia, who on Monday revealed charges against former Flynn associates Bijan Kian and Kamil Alptekin.

They are charged with conspiring to smear and win the extradition of exiled cleric Fethullah Gulen at the behest and funding of the government of Turkey.

Sullivan began the hearing by pushing Flynn and his lawyers on their suggestion in a recent court filing that he might have been unfairly treated by the FBI in the case, which was lodged by Mueller.

Flynn told Sullivan that he did not want to withdraw his guilty plea or to challenge the fairness of the FBI interview that led to his plea.

Flynn's lawyer told the judge he had not been entrapped by the FBI.

"I was aware" that lying to the FBI was a crime, Flynn said, declining an offer by Sullivan to postpone the sentencing.



The reality is maybe Flynn felt entrapped but he can’t say anything about that otherwise the plea deal gets pulled. That’s a real possibility. It’s also possible that Flynn was trying to protect Trump in all this and that’s what I’m taking away from all this. Almost an Ollie North type of situation. Flynn was telling Moscow not to get into a tit for tat with Obama during the transition. Flynn and Trump were asking Putin not to tie the new administrations hands before they took office.

Obama at the time looked like he wanted to start WW3 the way he was talking and acting. Flynn was putting in place a deal where sanctions went away over Crimea and Ukraine over help on Syria, Iran and other matters in Middle East. Problem is Flynn was being tapped by Obama administration and they knew exactly what he was up to. I’m convinced the reason Flynn lied was to protect Trump. Democrats are trying to say that Flynn’s talks with Russia back in summer could be treason since that’s when hacks occurred on DNC. That’s a far reach to say the least. But this judge is asking about treason and ripping Flynn a new one and I just wanted to point out Sullivan would love to burn Flynn.


This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:03 pm to
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People on this board think Sullivan is an ally or sympathetic to Flynn for some reason?

They do?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:07 pm to
Absolutely, because Sullivan ordered the prosecutors to provide the 302’s and the judge tearing into the prosecutor several times in this case. Many here believed Flynn would get off somehow by Mueller dropping the case or the judge letting Flynn go. I read this everyday for the longest.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23707 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:08 pm to
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People on this board think Sullivan is an ally or sympathetic to Flynn for some reason?

They do?


yes, they do.

Thread right here on the first page
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23183 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:08 pm to
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That’s a far reach to say the least. But this judge is asking about treason and ripping Flynn a new one and I just wanted to point out Sullivan would love to burn Flynn


And he apologized because he realized he's a moron.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28347 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:09 pm to
It’s almost like Flynn was a plant against the Trump team to implicate them in the Russia mess given the bonehead decisions made by one who would otherwise know better.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146746 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:09 pm to
all of that and you forgot to post the end statement taking it back and apologizing.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:13 pm to
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And he apologized because he realized he's a moron.


Only because the prosecution stopped short of calling it treason
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:15 pm to
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all of that and you forgot to post the end statement taking it back and apologizing.


Poly you one of the main ones pushing this Flynn narrative

Truth is the judge went down a line of questioning that touched on treason and the prosecution stopped there. If prosecution says it’s questionable whether it was treason then this judge isn’t apologizing. This gets to my point that the judge has always been on prosecutors side.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:18 pm to
The first time they pushed back Flynn's sentencing, months ago, all the usual idiots started with the "it's getting thrown out, he's going free!" They were still saying this even up until today. The absolute dumbest among them still are

I said "He still has work to do"

I was ridiculed, called names, laughed at, scorned, cursed.. As usual

I was right

God bless America
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:19 pm to
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It’s almost like Flynn was a plant against the Trump team to implicate them in the Russia mess given the bonehead decisions made by one who would otherwise know better.


Trump lost his right hand man when he lost Flynn. I think a lot of the turmoil in the administration is from not having Flynn’s steady hand on foreign affairs and even on domestic affairs. People don’t realize just how much Trump leaned on Flynn.
Posted by Deke
Palm Coast, Florida
Member since Jan 2004
1216 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:19 pm to
Lock his GD traitor arse up!!!!
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146746 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:20 pm to
a leftist site reporting this

quote:

“On the whole, I think he was treated unfairly today,” Abrams said of Flynn. “I have sympathy for Michael Flynn now, and it’s fair to say that at this hearing he got railroaded.”

Flynn, who plead guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia, faced a fierce reprimand from U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan over the course of the dramatic hearing. Sullivan said he was “not hiding my disgust” for Flynn’s crime, telling Flynn “arguably, you sold your country out.”

While Sullivan questioned if prosecutors could have charged Flynn with treason for his work as an unregistered agent of Turkey during the campaign, he later walked back those scathing remarks and apologized — confessing he messed up the timeline of Flynn’s work as an unregistered agent.

Abrams seemed particularly troubled by Judge Sullivan asking prosecutors if they considered charging Flynn with treason. “Words matter” Abrams asserted, but noted while he thought Flynn was treated “unfairly,” he did not think it was politically motivated.

“This is a judge who has been appointed to the bench by Reagan, Bush and Clinton,” Abrams said. “I think a lot of people on the right were counting on him to be the savior of Michael Flynn — but it ended up being the opposite today in court.”

“He was either unprepared, or he was just being vindictive,” he asserted.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:27 pm to
I don’t think Sullivan was on Flynn’s side in all this

That’s kind of my point. Judge seems to be going off on how he really feels about Flynn, no?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79111 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:29 pm to
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because Sullivan ordered the prosecutors to provide the 302’s


For transparency reasons solely. He appeared favorable to Flynn b/c he could've just as easily not requested them. I'm glad he was being impartial frankly.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:31 pm to
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The first time they pushed back Flynn's sentencing, months ago, all the usual idiots started with the "it's getting thrown out, he's going free!" They were still saying this even up until today. The absolute dumbest among them still are

I said "He still has work to do"

I was ridiculed, called names, laughed at, scorned, cursed.. As usual

I was right

God bless America


I don’t think Flynn sees any jail time btw.

This baby ain’t getting thrown out on any technicalities either though. The Mueller team got what they needed from Flynn and I think that’s his foreign expertise on Russia and the players in the Russian govt. I think Mueller said Flynn helped on like 19 cases.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:32 pm to
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For transparency reasons solely. He appeared favorable to Flynn b/c he could've just as easily not requested them. I'm glad he was being impartial frankly.


Everything I’ve ever read about Sullivan says he’s a fair judge with a good reputation. I think being a military man himself he sees much of what Flynn was doing as unethical.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:44 pm to
Remember when all you crazies throught Flynn had a rock solid case to have his own plea overturned. Remember that? Even though he was an unregistered foreign agent working as NatSec advisor.


Oh also, remember when Trump kicked everyone out of the room to ask Comey to go easy on Flynn?

But back to that huge crackpipe you all had many, many hits on, yeah, Flynn, dude was more interested in selling nuclear power to foreign bumblefricknowhere than defending the United States.

Thanks for the years of service where you weren't a useless turncoat, general.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:46 pm to
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I’m convinced the reason Flynn lied was to protect Trump.


What do you think he's protecting Trump from? Do you think Trump may have asked him to lie? To tell Kislyak to stand down on responding to Obama sanctions? Election related conspiracy?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Sullivan is 100% on the prosecutions side


Then he should be removed from the bench and disbarred. Judges are supposed to be impartial.
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