re: Judge slaps Mueller AGAIN

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Mueller is about to go 0 for 14. Just proves that the only thing they had was threats, and that's it.

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Ashamed that this entire charade has cost American taxpayers millions of dollars.

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Mueller is scared to have Gates cross examined.

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Any intelligent prosecutor would prefer to prove his case without the testimony of a witness who is vulnerable for “taking a deal.”

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Normally a tax issue like this gets a person who is convicted about 2 years in a Club Fed.

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how much for bank fraud?

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I suspect the judge will slap the defense a few times during gates testimony.

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Assuming he testifies.

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I somehow doubt that the fine netizens of td.com will start threads on it.

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That's reserved for TigerDoc, Rexcatur and you.

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I'll be sure to post in it.

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Never was a doubt!

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I'll be sure to post in it, at least.

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We are confident in this

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how much for bank fraud?

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If proven usually about 2-3 years. It depends if the bank had a problem with it . If he was paying on the loan, the bank probably has no opinion on the sentence...... the government does their due diligence on this post conviction and before the sentencing phase

It may be hard to prove the bank fraud case. Either Manafort had he reserves and assets to qualify or he did not. Mueller is saying he ratholed 60 million . The bank fraud is really based on the opinion of one underwriter who wrote an email saying he thought the P & L looked "corrected"

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This was started as an investigation into Russian collusion

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This was started as a way to bring the President down, any way possible.
As proven by what we've seen the last few months, the law doesn't really matter, so the circus will continue for a while.

Public rallies need to be held to squash this, just like the pussyhat festival after the election.

No collusion?

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to obtain any of the moneys, funds, credits, assets, securities or other property owned by, or under the custody or control of, a financial institution, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses

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So far they are not proving this. They are retrying a man for being a lobbyist.

muh ostrich coat

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Live Updates

27 minutes ago
Last night, the Justice Department released photographs of some of the coats allegedly bought by Mr Manafort.

CNN Politics on Twitter: "Take a look at Paul Manafort's luxury jackets, including a $15,000 ostrich coat

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48 minutes ago
Prosecutors are also formally arguing to Judge TS Ellis that they should be able to show proof to the jury of Paul Manafort’s lavish lifestyle, including photos of his high-end custom jacket, his real estate expenditures, and other purchases.

Judge Ellis has so far stopped the prosecutors from showing photos of Mr Manafort’s luxury purchases to the jury. The defense has wanted them kept out of the trial too. Mr Ellis has reminded the lawyers and Northern Virginia jurors multiple times that it’s not a crime for a person to be rich.

But in a filing, prosecutors wrote:

“That Manafort had an expensive lifestyle that required lots of money to maintain is important proof as to why he would commit the bank frauds” after his lobbying work declined in 2014.

50 minutes ago
Judge TS Ellis has brought up one of the elephants in the room — whether Mr Manafort himself will testify.

Mr Ellis said he did not yet know if Mr Manafort would testify in his own defense, and did not want to force a decision from the defense team until they begin their side of the case, after the prosecution's case rests.

“He will not be penalized for the right to remain silent,” Mr Ellis said.

51 minutes ago
There has also been some early talk of witnesses for later in the trial.

After suggesting yesterday that their potential star witness, Mr Manafort's former associate Rick Gates, may not take the stand, the prosecution have clarified they do intend to call him.

Mr Gates would take the stand - possibly as early as Friday - prosecutor Greg Andres said in court without the jury in the room.

58 minutes ago
The prosecution are still laying out their case - with today expected to a case of the US attorneys asking the jurors to "follow the money trail" of Mr Manafort's political work in Ukraine.

1 hour ago
Hello and welcome and to our coverage of the third day of Paul Manafort trial.

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