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re: Judge refuses to dismiss subway chokehold death case against Marine veteran Daniel Penny

Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423297 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

standard fallback when caught in a web of bullshite. Shucks guys it was just a thought exercise pay no mind

The first clue is asking a question to create discussion as opposed to starting off with a position
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111580 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 pm to
He’s not.

quote:

This is an extreme example that may not be fully true, but there are hundreds of other similar stories who didn't result in death. In all of these scenarios, dozens and dozens of unvaccinated people ended up creating negative externalities that negatively affected others. If this case is true, they killed this man, effectively.

If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.

This completely removes the "personal healthcare decision" argument from the table. If your choices lead to a negative outcome to others, then your choices are well beyond just a personal choice. This is the part of the argument that many unvaccinated people refuse to admit (For obvious reasons. Nobody wants to admit that they're a villain).

Also, this is nothing like the "obesity" counter re: heart disease. Yeah obesity causes all sorts of personal issues that negatively affect that individual's health. But, at this time at least, there isn't a dramatic increase of heart/diabetes cases that are causing hospitals to deny healthcare to others. As soon as that happens, this argument will have some logic, but it's not here, presently.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

threads posted for thought exercises,


What a lying, gutless piece of shite you are.

You're busted, redhanded and you go all "Biden Spokesperson" with your bullzhit covering of your lies.

Go fk yourself, you worthless POS....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:43 pm to
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You must have missed the part where I explained he's creating a straw man by mentally mixing up different threads


Naw, idiot, he's just creating a "thought exercise".

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:44 pm to
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The first clue is asking a question to create discussion as opposed to starting off with a position


In discourse, a question is often understood to be the stating of a position.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103905 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Judge
Quick Web search makes me think this is a case of "Every. Single. Time."
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.


Attempting to explain this away as a "thought exercise" is far beyond AggieHank levels of dishonesty and delusion.

I mean, it can't be any clearer what SFP's insane position on the matter is, yet despite being CLEARLY busted, he urges us not to trust our lying eyes.

What a POS...
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131450 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

BLM and Antifa about to get busy before November.


It is currently “Hamas First” season.

“BLM season” runs from Juneteenth to first frost.

ANTIFA might have this one on their own.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12015 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:49 pm to
Penny should give the nation a demonstration of how gentle that "hold" is and use the Judge as his guinea pig.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:51 pm to
Someone had better copy that thread before the azzhole deletes or does the ole' AggieHank edit.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111580 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:52 pm to
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Attempting to explain this away as a "thought exercise" is far beyond AggieHank levels of dishonesty and delusion.


It’s embarrassingly dishonest. He should have punted on this when the thread first got linked.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:55 pm to
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He should have punted on this when the thread first got linked.



Some people are neurologically incapable of that sort of logical thinking/action.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:07 pm to
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O'rly?


Doesn't this azzhole claim to be a Lawyer?

I mean, can you imagine defending this in a court of law?

"Your honor and good people of the jury, altho' my client typed these words and defended them for 20 plus pages on the Internet, they do not represent his TRUE feelings....he was merely engaging in a "thought exercise" meant to foster discussion and educate the great unwashed...."

Posted by TinGym
Member since Jun 2016
2788 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:11 pm to
What was the identity and ethnicity of the judge?
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12243 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:13 pm to
We need to think long and hard before stepping into blue cities. If we can’t protect ourselves and we can’t then stop going into blue cities and spending your money.

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:37 pm to
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You must have missed the part where I explained he's creating a straw man by mentally mixing up different threads

Keep running like a bitch from the direct quotes and links posted in this thread. It’s very entertaining.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:42 pm to
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The first clue is asking a question to create discussion as opposed to starting off with a position

“If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.”

“No I'm saying that if you're unvaccinated and you take up a bed that leads to a person without covid being denied service, you bear personal responsibility for that.”

Look at all those questions/totally not positions
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Look at all those questions/totally not positions


And that stupid, dishonest b!tch has the nerve to wonder why people think Lawyers are lower than pond scum.

Apologies to those select few on this board who are honorable, but the industry seems to draw on the biggest pieces of shite walking to fill its ranks.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:54 am to
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I try to avoid sounding like a progressive.


Our entire system is progressive. Having a trial and going to jail for rehabilitation was the progressive ideology.


The old way would just be to have two people accuse someone of being a witch then execute them.





This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 7:04 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10556 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:59 am to
"If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.”

“No I'm saying that if you're unvaccinated and you take up a bed that leads to a person without covid being denied service, you bear personal responsibility for that.”
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