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Judge refuses to dismiss subway chokehold death case against Marine veteran Daniel Penny

Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44008 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:02 am
BREAKING: Daniel Penny, charged with second degree manslaughter for placing a homeless guy in a chokehold for threatening people on the subway in New York, just had his request to dismiss the charges against him denied.

And so continues the muti-tiered “justice” system in the US.

Trial to begin in the fall.

NBC New York



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A judge has denied a motion by attorneys for Daniel Penny, the U.S. Marine veteran who placed Jordan Neely in a deadly chokehold aboard a New York City subway last year, to dismiss the case.

The decision came in court on Wednesday. The judge ordered Penny back to court in late March. His trial is tentatively expected to start in the fall. Penny's attorney didn't comment after the hearing.

Penny, 24, has pleaded not guilty to second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide in the May 1 death of Neely, a former Michael Jackson impersonator who was shouting and begging for money on the Manhattan train, according to witnesses.

Penny pinned him to the ground with the help of two other passengers and held him in a chokehold for more than three minutes. Neely, 30, lost consciousness during the struggle.

The chokehold death, which was caught on bystander video, prompted fierce debate, with some praising Penny as a good Samaritan and others accusing him of racist vigilantism. Penny is white and Neely was Black.

In an October court filing, Penny's attorneys highlighted testimony from grand jury witnesses who were on the May 1 train. One of those riders, the motion reads, was afraid he “was going to die” when Neely approached.

To get a manslaughter conviction, which carries a prison sentence of up to 15 years, prosecutors would have to prove Penny recklessly caused Neely's death while being aware of the risk of serious harm.

A conviction for criminally negligent homicide would require the jury to find that Penny unjustifiably put Neely at risk of death, but failed to perceive that risk. The maximum penalty would be four years in prison.

Penny, who served in the Marines for four years and was discharged in 2021, has said he acted to protect himself and others from Neely. In a video statement released by his lawyers weeks after the incident, Penny claimed Neely repeatedly said “I’m gonna kill you,” and that he was ready to die or spend his life in prison.

Neely's family members and their supporters have said Neely, who struggled with mental illness and homelessness, was crying out for help and was met with violence.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2096 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:09 am to
WE should be rioting over this.
Posted by Badface
Member since May 2020
1513 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:09 am to
"Trial begins in the Fall"

and there it is....BLM and Antifa about to get busy before November.

Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9272 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:12 am to
Penny did society a favor. He should get a cash reward from crime stoppers.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27092 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:12 am to
And yet another reason why you should think long and hard before trying to protect someone else that it not an immediate family member...

Society has asked for this....
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95083 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:14 am to
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Neely's family members and their supporters have said Neely, who struggled with mental illness and homelessness, was crying out for help and was met with violence.


quote:

Neely's family members and their supporters have said Neely, who was a violent a-hole, is going to provide more for them in death than in life.


Fixed.


Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44008 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:15 am to
quote:

WE should be rioting over this.

Government is inherently fricked up; so few things they do surprise me and wind me up to the point of rage.
This situation is the exception.
I feel myself becoming viscerally apoplectic over what’s happening to this man.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 11:17 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Michael Jackson impersonator who was shouting and begging for money


What was he shouting? His top 10 favorite movies? His mom’s recipe for peach cobbler?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79630 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:26 am to
inb4 Spectrum
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50389 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Neely was crying out for violence and was met with violence.


Fixed it for them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422208 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:28 am to
quote:

inb4 Spectrum


You don't need me. Just read the article.

quote:

“While we disagree with the Court’s decision not to dismiss the indictment, we understand that the legal threshold to continue even an ill-conceived prosecution is very low," Raiser and Kenniff said in a statement.


A motion to dismiss an indictment is difficult and requires a legal issue when he was relying on facts.

For example, Trump's business records criminal trial in NY has a chance of being dismissed, due to the legal issues at hand.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:38 am to
In 2024, the Law getting in the way of Justice is the norm.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422208 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:40 am to
quote:

In 2024, the Law getting in the way of Justice is the norm.


Well if you wanted to sound exactly like a progressive on this cold Wednesday morning, you just did it quite succinctly.

When will the "No justice, no peace" chants start?
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5743 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:41 am to
Upside down world run by Democrat trash! Heroes are now villains and thugs like George Floyd are hailed as heroes.
And why isn't Lt. Robert Byrd of the capital police not charged with murder for killing unarmed white woman, Ashli Babbit?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:42 am to
That’s a troll post.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:43 am to
quote:

That’s a troll post.


I mean...that's sort of all he really does....
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5530 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:44 am to
Judges decide legal issues, not guilt or innocence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422208 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:45 am to
"The law getting in the way of justice" is the theme every time a progressive/socialist policy gets struck down by courts

Remember this a few years ago?







Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46009 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:45 am to
The justice system is so fricked up.

Over the past 30-40 years our prestigious law universities have graduated/unleashed cultural Marxist tainted lawyers on society, eventually these cultural Marxist lawyers become judges and here we are.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:45 am to
Sure. So you’re saying the law never gets justice wrong.

Good talk.
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