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Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:40 pm to NoHoTiger
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Morality is not within a judge's purview. And again, the husband's decision should have been honored without interference from the state.
This
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:55 pm to dr smartass phd
In all honesty, I'm pro-life and I can clearly see that this is one of those cases where the fetus if it somehow manged to be born would live a very horrible and painful life. Death is basically mercy for the child.
With that said, this is not an issue that should be referenced in future abortion debates by either pro-life or pro-choice crowds.
With that said, this is not an issue that should be referenced in future abortion debates by either pro-life or pro-choice crowds.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:12 pm to Sentrius
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this is not an issue that should be referenced in future abortion debates by either pro-life or pro-choice crowds.
I agree. This is more of a the-state-should-keep-it's-nose-out-of-my-business issue.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:14 pm to NoHoTiger
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This is more of a the-state-should-keep-it's-nose-out-of-my-business issue.
This!!
And, since it is NOT the OT...I'll refrain from comments about my nose and your business
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:17 pm to goldennugget
quote:If I recall correctly, the infant suffered from severe physical and more than likely mental malformations.
This is what makes me mad, a fetus is not considered viable in Texas until after 24 weeks, and no tests have been done on the baby int he last week
I consider what he wanted to be an act of mercy.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:19 pm to Scruffy
quote:This.
I consider what he wanted to be an act of mercy.
How far along was the pregnancy?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:19 pm to NoHoTiger
This is one of those cases which should have remained private.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:20 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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And, since it is NOT the OT...I'll refrain from comments about my nose and your business
Hey BHP I see we're on the same page as usual.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:20 pm to Hawkeye95
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Its not a death sentence for the fetus. The fetus by all rights should be dead, and died when the woman carrying her went brain dead.
All the judge is saying let nature take its course.
but if keeping the women alive (being alive is more than just having brain activity) sure she is brain dead but if her body is sustaining the fetus than the women should be kept alive.
Note: legally the fetus is human so there are no legal grounds to keep alive a "clump of cells" but if it is human than letting the women die is very problematic.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:20 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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since it is NOT the OT...I'll refrain from comments about my nose and your business
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:22 pm to goldennugget
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Still doesn't excuse him from being a pathetic excuse for a human being for wanting to kill his baby...
You are seriously an idiot.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:22 pm to NoHoTiger
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Morality is not within a judge's purview. And again, the husband's decision should have been honored without interference from the state.
you are correct I should have phrased that in another way
a legal system that would allow a fetus to die even when it could be saved is problematic. The Judge has his hands tied, but I don't like the morality of the legal system.
Again if the mother being on a ventilator will allow the fetus to survive and be born (through C section obviously) than the mother should be kept alive.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:23 pm to NoHoTiger
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Hey BHP I see we're on the same page as usual.
That's because my desire to stalk you overrides that fear of the restraining order you served on me!
Hope you are well
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:24 pm to Scruffy
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If I recall correctly, the infant suffered from severe physical and more than likely mental malformations.
I consider what he wanted to be an act of mercy.
than by your logic we should go into mental institutions and kill all those who hare physical and mental malformations.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:24 pm to VOR
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Try as I might, I can not muster any respect, intellectually or morally, for the argument that this unfortunate woman should be kept on life support.
It reduces her to being nothing more then a breeder.
But of course anti-abortion rights types really don't care about her in anyway.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:24 pm to catholictigerfan
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but if keeping the women alive (being alive is more than just having brain activity) sure she is brain dead but if her body is sustaining the fetus than the women should be kept alive.
first off *woman
second; disagree...the husband/father did not want medical intervention and that should have been honored. The woman had a DNR and that should also have been honored. The state should not have interfered.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:24 pm to Sentrius
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With that said, this is not an issue that should be referenced in future abortion debates by either pro-life or pro-choice crowds.
+1
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:26 pm to catholictigerfan
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Again if the mother being on a ventilator will allow the fetus to survive and be born (through C section obviously) than the mother should be kept alive.
To what end exactly. In case that fetus can reach the birth canal?
This is torture...nothing more nothing less. And it reduces that man's wife to being nothing more then a breeding device.
For shame.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 6:27 pm to catholictigerfan
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The Judge has his hands tied, but I don't like the morality of the legal system.
You don't have to like the morality of the decision. This is a legal decision and that is the only decision the judge/legal system has the authority to make.
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Again if the mother being on a ventilator will allow the fetus to survive and be born (through C section obviously) than the mother should be kept alive.
Not if it goes against both her and her husband's wishes. Her wishes should be honored regardless of anyone else's thoughts on the morality of said wishes.
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