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re: Judge blocks federal worker buyout plan

Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5087 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:16 pm to
It’s almost as if the judiciary wants itself to become irrelevant.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:17 pm to
Am I missing something?

1. Federal employees told they must return to the office.
2. For those who don't want to comply, they are being given the opportunity to voluntary resign with severance through September of this year.
3. This gets characterized as forcing people out even though there's two options to choose from.

So, what's going on here?
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72240 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

The private sector.


Who is their primary customer in a lot of these scenarios? Where is that money going to come from for that customer to pay them?





Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Who is their primary customer in a lot of these scenarios? Where is that money going to come from for that customer to pay them?


Using the private sector to manage public lands is never going to happen. Ever. The only land the private sector has the ability to manage is private lands. Period.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

The implementation of the memo is different agency to agency. For instance I know of some people who are non-bargaining unit that have to return by February 24th. However bargaining unit employees haven't been told to return


You right, I thought I was looking at OPM policy letter, but it was actually DOD
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14729 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

You right, I thought I was looking at OPM policy letter, but it was actually DOD


Yeah you got to be careful with all the shite floating around
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5554 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:39 pm to
I see it like this. Court cases mean
Discovery Discovery Discovery.

"Mr Smith do you work from home or do you have an office in DC?"

"I work from home"

"I see. Then what is Company X? What do you do for them?"

"That's um, that's uh, a company I uh work, uh fffffor"

"How's that"

"Pardon"

"How do you work for this company and the federal gov't?
You're not working from home are you Mr Smith? You're drawing a paycheck from the fed gov't, while working also in the private sector. Is that accurate, Mr Smith?"

"Uh um uh um uh um"

"You're not providing any meaningful work for the gov't at all. Is that accurate? You're just drawing a check off the backs of hard working Americans."

"Uh um uh um I I I'm a uh um uh uh ummmmm uh"

"No further questions your honor"

"Our next witness will be the owner of Company X."
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:52 pm to
Huh? There is a caveat with the deferred resignation program in the form of a contract that has to be signed to ensure this doesn’t actually happen and litigation isn’t performed during the deference.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4521 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:09 pm to
OH, just like a lib. . . now we've shifted the goal posts?

The vast majority of drilling that occurs on land (i.e. not offshore, you stupid FRICK) is privately owned.

There are people who are referred to as a: "landman"!!!

They go out, research county/parish records in courthouses all over the mother phuucking country all of the time day in and day out and get paid well when then put a landowner and a lessee together.

You seriously can't be this frickkkkiing stupid?

I'm not going to add the rest of the equation up for you because just insulting you is enough of my time wasted.

Call someone who knows more than you. . . idiot.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 4:11 pm
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The vast majority of drilling that occurs on land (i.e. not offshore, you stupid FRICK) is privately owned.


Yea no shite the mining companies are private, but they’re operating under leases on PUBLIC LAND not private land. The lease is managed by the FEDERAL government, not the private sector.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35764 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

You really think DOGE is going after the Bureau of Land Management?


Dear God, I hope so.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4521 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

PNW


You don't have a clue.
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:14 pm to
Are you serious? I work with geologists who implement leases for mining companies on public land in Nevada. Let me introduce you to a clue.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35764 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

PNW


Assuming you aren't in a leadership position I have no issue with you (other than hanging out here while I assume you are supposed to be working; yes, I know I'm here as well ) continuing the job that you have. But, if you are gonna act like there are no issues with BLM at the top level I'm going to assume you are bias.

Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11380 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:22 pm to
The fact is, government employees have forgotten (or never understood) that they are accountable to taxpayers.

That they don't get to decide whether or not their jobs are remote or wfh, or that their job is expendable. The one paying the salary does--the taxpayers.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2487 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

So you think Trump can just fire 2 million workers just because


The position is no longer needed.


I'm sure some positions are not needed, but some are, do you know who should stay and who needs to go? does Trump? Removing that many workers will negatively effect many aspect of government and all of our military forces.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4521 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:27 pm to
I've personally done leases in Frio, Zavala, Dimmit counties in TX and a shite ton around White Lake, LA.

I didn't have to engage a single fed in order to make a deal.

You want a fed involved in every step, because you're a Marxist.

We drill baby drill with permits. If we're not drilling on a lease, you lose the lease. It's really phucking simple.

Use it or lose it.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8199 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

I'm sure some positions are not needed, but some are, do you know who should stay and who needs to go? does Trump? Removing that many workers will negatively effect many aspect of government and all of our military forces.


It will positively affect the growth of the debt.

Who is most of the debt owed to?

us

The house of cards collapsing would be more negative. What are the alternatives to attacking the debt?
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:36 pm to
The military is the most bloated part of the US government. By far. We could start there, for one.
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

I didn't have to engage a single fed in order to make a deal.
quote:

I've personally done leases in Frio, Zavala, Dimmit counties in TX and a shite ton around White Lake, LA. I didn't have to engage a single fed in order to make a deal.


Congrats on working on leases on what I assume is land that is not federally managed. What a way to provide a basis to your argument

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