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re: Judge Beryl Howell goes all in blocks another Trump EO - Perkins Coie

Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:32 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:32 am to
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So you are saying that if I hire someone to kill someone I am in the clear because I physically did not kill said person.

Y'all are really bad at analogies. The histrionics are consistent. i will give y'all that.

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It is painfully obvious that PC acted in bad faith

For a campaign? No.

The problem is that y'all are trying to expand their role beyond the campaign, specifically into behavior by the DOJ. That's where your arguments fail.

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and trump has every right to cancel their security clearance.

For effectively representing his campaign opponent? That sounds like textbook viewpoint discrimination.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:33 am to
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Nope.

I saw it during the campaign. Hell I think I may have shared it on social media during the campaign.

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If the employeer knows what the money is being used for...

Dude. Just stop
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:33 am to
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Trump admin cannot ban SFP from getting a security clearance because of my political viewpoints/past arguments. No force is involved.
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WRONG...We do NOT have to grant a hardcore Marxist or member of the Taliban a damned security clearance. That argument is just ignorant.
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:39 am to
U.S. law (52 U.S.C. § 30121) prohibits foreign nationals from contributing money or services to influence federal elections. So in essence PC helped Fusion GPS break the law.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:39 am to
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I saw it during the campaign. Hell I think I may have shared it on social media during the campaign.


"It was reported on during a campaign therefore it's 100% a political advertisement."

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Dude. Just stop


With wrinkles your comparisons can't properly account for?

No, I don't think I will.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:39 am to
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funnel the money.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:39 am to
Even with John Roberts bitch arse, this won’t end well for the judiciary.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:42 am to
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Perkins Coie was a way for the campaign to hide paying for the dossier
Perkin knew this.



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Again, Steele provided his "research" to various intelligence agencies and the FBI directly. No middle man was needed and therefore no conspiracy existed.
It was supplied to multiple agencies to create gravitas out of thin air.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:44 am to
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"It was reported on during a campaign therefore it's 100% a political advertisement."


Already covered

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It was. i think you meant to include the "by a campaign" language and forgot.
Posted by BCreed1
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:45 am to
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I saw it during the campaign.



The Dossier was finished in Dec 2016. Sir, that is after the election was over.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:46 am to
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Perkin knew this.

And?

It's beyond a logical leap to associate paying for the Dossier and the DOJ using it in the FISA court, knowing its issues.

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It was supplied to multiple agencies to create gravitas out of thin air.

By Steele. Not Perkins Coie. Not even Fusion GPS, I don't think.

The association between PC and the DOJ's improper usage is non-existent.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:46 am to
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This is the federal government imposing a penalty on another party based on the viewpoint they held. That is unconstitutional any day. This is not even close.


Looks to me like you are defending Russia, Russia, Russia and encouraging fake impeachments and lawmakers.

If you want to end our republic and further divide the country continue down this path.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:47 am to
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It's beyond a logical leap to associate paying for the Dossier and the DOJ using it in the FISA court, knowing its issues.

So I launder the payment and still no culpability!


Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6193 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:48 am to
This fricking retard is shitting up the board arguing that the executive doesn’t have authority to revoke the security clearance of private sector law firm on a Saturday morning with people who despise you and have zero respect for you.

Your life must be fricking miserable.
Remember to aim up and not back.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28143 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:49 am to
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It was. i think you meant to include the "by a campaign" language and forgot.


And Perkins Coie just forgot that the knowimgly false report they had a hand in creating was being used in courts/investigations, huh?
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1933 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:49 am to
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Absolutely. This EO is clearly viewpoint discrimination and a violation of the First Amendment.

Waitaminute. Isn't his order revoking security clearance? Violation of the first amendment?? If you are correct then every citizen has a right to view classified information as a first amendment right? Wow, I guess you believe we can all go to the FBI office and rummage around the Epstien, Hunter Biden, Anthony Wiesman, Debbie Wasserman Shutz and countless other files, right?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:50 am to
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By Steele. Not Perkins Coie.


Perkins Coie was still aware, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:50 am to
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So I launder the payment and still no culpability!

No the FEC gave the campaign a fine for that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 11:51 am to
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Perkins Coie was still aware, though.

Sure. That's literally irrelevant, though. Unless you're getting into stuff that would be bad for the admin's argument in court.
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