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re: Journalist fired after calling police systemic racism a ‘myth’
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:15 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:15 pm to mindbreaker
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No that is what YOU are seeing. I see a segment of fed up people tired of being treated as lesser human beings. And I agree with them on that.
Yes tearing down statues and looting Hermes is protesting police brutality
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:17 pm to mindbreaker
Faith over evidence is such a dangerous thing.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:17 pm to mindbreaker
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No that is what YOU are seeing. I see a segment of fed up people tired of being treated as lesser human beings. And I agree with them on that.
No, it's more than just me. I see people who are former communist saying that is a communist takeover manuever and the tactics used are communist tactics. I see people who lived under communism saying this. Even better, BLM themselves are saying this is a Marxist political movement.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:17 pm to Pettifogger
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But the "system" and the police do wake up and go "I'm going to go arrest someone who is black", am I right?
Not at all, but there is a lot of police that see a black person and go "they have to be up to something, I better find out what" Sorry if I'm being "naive" by your standards but that attitude is absolutely unacceptable at all.
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Cool. Go find the perfect police officers who can suspend their prejudices and learned experiences and treat everyone the same. Should be easy enough.
I'm sorry you accept prejudice and racism. That's on you I personally don't.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:19 pm to mindbreaker
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Not at all, but there is a lot of police that see a black person and go "they have to be up to something, I better find out what"
Is there? What’s “a lot?” Ballpark it.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:20 pm to mindbreaker
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No that is what YOU are seeing. I see a segment of fed up people tired of being treated as lesser human beings. And I agree with them on that.
So I, as a mutt of multiple ethnicities, have the obligation/justification to run around and loot/riot in Texas for my Hispanic heritage, all while fighting most of America for my Native American heritage, plus throwing in my French heritage to fight whoever they were hurt by in the past?
Are you actually insane that you believe I have the right to commit criminal actions by looting and rioting because of the "injustices" faced by my ancestors?
We're privelaged enough to live in the U.S.A, people need to act like it and realized that we do have it pretty damn good here.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:22 pm to mindbreaker
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Doesn't matter people shouldn't be treated differently based on the color of their skin
Assertion without evidence
No matter how often you repeat it
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:22 pm to mindbreaker
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Doesn't matter people shouldn't be treated differently based on the color of their skin
Unsurprisingly you missed the point. The whole reason you think there is a witch hunt on black people is a statistic like this. Unfortunately for you plenty statistics come to the opposite conclusion, demonstrating why people should honestly look at the problem and its originating factors instead of basing a worldview on a faulty statistic.
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Holy shite, really? Treating people equally will solve nothing?
Holy shite dude you have to demonstrate that
1. There is unequal treatment
2. Racism is the reason for the unequal treatment.
If it were as easy as a single statistic, again, black people HATE white people.
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Jeez man the level people will go to maintain the status quo is mind boggling. Even when that status quo is complete fricked.
I totally agree with this but you won't acknowledge the real issues with the status quo that need to be altered.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:23 pm to mindbreaker
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Not at all, but there is a lot of police that see a black person and go "they have to be up to something
False can they see them and recognize that they are more likely to be up to something which is categorically true. And if this bothers you and then being mad at the white police officer is misdirected anger
quote:false you quite clearly not only accept it but engage in it happily
I'm sorry you accept prejudice and racism. That's on you I personally don't
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:26 pm to Taxing Authority
How can you fricking fire somebody for doing what is exactly her job. She’s not making stuff up
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:29 pm to MeatPants
It’s a college newspaper. No one expects them to be smart.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:50 pm to MeatPants
Can anyone think of a more baseless and useless movement in American history than this
There are such major flaws in how this is being done. It’s all based on a philosophy that all whites are privileged by just being born. All or most cops brutalize and kill innocent black people. There is nothing used to back it up other than anecdotes. Just painting the whole world with a broad brush
While the more and more you read that actual statistical facts don’t back up almost any of the claims by black lives matter. At some point people will start to see. I’ve never really looked at it until,the last few months. It’s absolutely staggering the amount of violence and mayhem the black race perpetrates in this country in comparison to anount of people
Of course they don’t want police. I’m still waiting for the gold caskets for the three year and 12 year old killed in Chicago. But apparently that’s just collateral damage to black struggle
Hey but how dare a cop push some a-hole to the ground that’s been screaming frick you at him while he’s trying to arrest some dude that beating the frick out of his wife and kid
There are such major flaws in how this is being done. It’s all based on a philosophy that all whites are privileged by just being born. All or most cops brutalize and kill innocent black people. There is nothing used to back it up other than anecdotes. Just painting the whole world with a broad brush
While the more and more you read that actual statistical facts don’t back up almost any of the claims by black lives matter. At some point people will start to see. I’ve never really looked at it until,the last few months. It’s absolutely staggering the amount of violence and mayhem the black race perpetrates in this country in comparison to anount of people
Of course they don’t want police. I’m still waiting for the gold caskets for the three year and 12 year old killed in Chicago. But apparently that’s just collateral damage to black struggle
Hey but how dare a cop push some a-hole to the ground that’s been screaming frick you at him while he’s trying to arrest some dude that beating the frick out of his wife and kid
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:53 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
Systemic policing is often a problem. I wish more people realized it extends to all people, not just a few.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:58 pm to Pettifogger
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Cool. Go find the perfect police officers who can suspend their prejudices and learned experiences and treat everyone the same. Should be easy enough.
To expand on this and his argument of the cause of the statistics, officers don't give a damn why you are here committing a crime or why you are more likely to react towards the officer with violence. They care about the present and not being killed while enforcing the law.
I'm sure plenty would love for the cause to be fixed. Can't imagine too many officers enjoy never knowing when they are going to get assaulted when trying to enforce the law or patrolling high crime areas. The cause isn't relevant to individual police interactions. What is relevant is that experience has told them a certain situation and often a certain type of person is more likely to create a more dangerous situation and a more aggressive approach by the officer will decrease the chances the officer gets injured.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
Editor in Chief's response
Twitter
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"The Daily Orange removed a columnist because she wrote an op-ed in another publication arguing that institutional racism doesn't exist. Racism is real and deadly. Dismissing that is harmful to our community members of color.
The columnist’s op-ed reinforces false and dangerous stereotypes of Black people as criminals, and dismisses that police officers kill Black people at disproportionately higher rates than white people.
Who we give a platform to reflects our values. The D.O. has published dozens of columns and letters to the editor from liberal and conservative writers alike. We aren't afraid of controversial views, but we have a responsibility to avoid promoting harmful ones.
If you disagree with our decision, feel free to reach out. Message us, send an email, write a letter to the editor. We're listening."
— Casey Darnell, editor-in-chief
Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:01 pm to moneyg
College newspapers compete to see who can be the most Pravda. The little simps who work for them graduate to join their comrades in the working media.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:02 pm to mindbreaker
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Not at all, but there is a lot of police that see a black person and go "they have to be up to something, I better find out what" Sorry if I'm being "naive" by your standards but that attitude is absolutely unacceptable at all.
If 6% of the population would stop committing over half the violent crimes maybe they would have more pleasant interactions with their LEOs.
Saying that FACT should be completely ignored is just stupid.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:12 pm to gthog61
What that editor in chief said is just not true. Or he doesn’t understand context or statistics
Yes. Of you just use pure population amounts. Blacks are killed in disproportionate amounts. But if you use actual crime rates in which blacks are arrested 30% of all crimes and at least 40% of violent (of which I’m assuming most of the deaths happen in committing these crimes) the numbers are basically exact.
Showing almost no bias whatsoever
Yes. Of you just use pure population amounts. Blacks are killed in disproportionate amounts. But if you use actual crime rates in which blacks are arrested 30% of all crimes and at least 40% of violent (of which I’m assuming most of the deaths happen in committing these crimes) the numbers are basically exact.
Showing almost no bias whatsoever
Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:16 pm to mindbreaker
An Orleans Parish deputy ask me once if I saw a white guy going into the projects, what is he up to. His answer was drugs or stolen jewelry. Is he a racist because he made an assumption based on race or just experienced.
Is the white suburban punk more likely to kill an officer than a black youth living the thug life. Your expectations of equal treatment for these two stereotypes will get cops killed. I’m sorry if you look similar to the more dangerous of the two. Acting in a honest non threatening manner is still best.
Being belligerent and getting a cop concerned for his life will get you killed regardless of race. In my twenties I shortened my hair by eight inches. I got a different reaction from people when I didn’t look like a druggie. Go figure.
Labeling someone like Sowel as out of touch shows some people’s intransigence. His family moved from the Jim Crow south. Are you old enough to remember this type of racism yourself? After dropping out he made something of himself.
How could someone that has lived the American dream possibly give advice to others how to succeed. I work next to blacks every day that are succeeding. They use their opportunity to get up every day and work hard too. No need for them to feel sorry for how unfair life is.
Is the white suburban punk more likely to kill an officer than a black youth living the thug life. Your expectations of equal treatment for these two stereotypes will get cops killed. I’m sorry if you look similar to the more dangerous of the two. Acting in a honest non threatening manner is still best.
Being belligerent and getting a cop concerned for his life will get you killed regardless of race. In my twenties I shortened my hair by eight inches. I got a different reaction from people when I didn’t look like a druggie. Go figure.
Labeling someone like Sowel as out of touch shows some people’s intransigence. His family moved from the Jim Crow south. Are you old enough to remember this type of racism yourself? After dropping out he made something of himself.
How could someone that has lived the American dream possibly give advice to others how to succeed. I work next to blacks every day that are succeeding. They use their opportunity to get up every day and work hard too. No need for them to feel sorry for how unfair life is.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 5:20 pm to Pettifogger
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Cool. Go find the perfect police officers who can suspend their prejudices and learned experiences and treat everyone the same. Should be easy enough.
I agree with all of your points except this one. You shouldn't just throw in the towel and say it's acceptable when it happens because no one is perfect.
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