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Jordan Peterson > Nigel Farage
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:23 am
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:24 am to tigerpawl
He owned that clown.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:27 am to tigerpawl
Jordan Peterson is Brilliant.
But I often find at times to brilliant for me. I was listing to him debate Sam Harris and it made me feel dumb.
But he is very well spoken, illustrates his points very well, and is highly intelligent. If you try to debate an opposing view you better bring your A game with him. He can and has made a lot of people look foolish.
But I often find at times to brilliant for me. I was listing to him debate Sam Harris and it made me feel dumb.
But he is very well spoken, illustrates his points very well, and is highly intelligent. If you try to debate an opposing view you better bring your A game with him. He can and has made a lot of people look foolish.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:29 am to Superquincy
quote:
I was listing to him debate Sam Harris and it made me feel dumb.
That debate makes 90% of people feel dumb.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:36 am to Superquincy
quote:In the process of handing their asses to them, he maintains a certain level of civility.
If you try to debate an opposing view you better bring your A game with him.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:45 am to tigerpawl
the father figure of the internet
his brilliance has probably saved thousands of lives
his brilliance has probably saved thousands of lives
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:30 pm to tigerpawl
He was on point but more than that the interviewer spent the entire interview trying to put words in his mouth. Damned near every time she asked him something, when she responded with what she thought she heard it was completely different (and then he would have to turn around and correct her).
After watching the whole thing, the point where she admits he got her was especially satisfying.
After watching the whole thing, the point where she admits he got her was especially satisfying.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:34 pm to tigerpawl
She ain't too bright.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:54 pm to tigerpawl
Nigel Farage? Would be nice if your post or link indicated it was the same UK Channel 4 interview that’s been posted and discussed several times already.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:56 pm to Bard
“ no that’s not what I said . What I said was ...”.
Followed by cognitive dissonance.
Followed by cognitive dissonance.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:01 pm to Langland
quote:
She ain't too bright.
By journalistic standards she's a genius.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:06 pm to tigerpawl
Love Jordan Peterson. One of the best religious apologists I've heard. Don't agree with him on some things, but he is right about the human craving for archetypal truth. The man actually has answers and freely admits when he moves into points based only on faith.
It gives me great hope to see the resurgence of interest in public intellectuals and debate. Even more heartening is the fact that the most popular ones seem to mostly be on the libertarian right.
It gives me great hope to see the resurgence of interest in public intellectuals and debate. Even more heartening is the fact that the most popular ones seem to mostly be on the libertarian right.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:10 pm to Superquincy
quote:
But I often find at times to brilliant for me
You think?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:28 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:People in hell want ice water. Deal with it.
Nigel Farage? Would be nice if your post or link indicated it was the same UK Channel 4 interview that’s been posted and discussed several times already.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:34 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
People in hell want ice water. Deal with it.
I prefer beer but
anyway. 
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:35 pm to Superquincy
quote:
But he is very well spoken, illustrates his points very well, and is highly intelligent. If you try to debate an opposing view you better bring your A game with him. He can and has made a lot of people look foolish.
He is indeed intelligent, but what I find interesting is that he doesn't necessarily win debates by overpowering his opponents with his own viewpoints.
He does it by using his opponents' own passion and inferior logic against them.
This is basically what he did repeatedly to that feminist lady...
And I love it. Our society's collective decision-making and worldview-shaping has become way too based solely on emotion and feelings. We need some reason and logic warriors to fight back.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:38 pm to tigerpawl
He has a little WF Buckley in his method.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:43 pm to UGATiger26
quote:That's where he gets his power. He lets the listener draw his/her own conclusion. Philosophical points are most effective when the listener, after reviewing the evidence, arrives at their own conclusion rather than being shouted into submitting. In general, his points are so compelling and well thought out that you have no choice but to agree with him.
...but what I find interesting is that he doesn't necessarily win debates by overpowering his opponents with his own viewpoints.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:47 pm to tigerpawl
Why is he being compared to Farage? Farage is a British nationalist, this guy is a Canadian psychologist...
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:51 pm to tigerpawl
Farage has way better showmanship and bravado. Both wicked smart and principaled
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