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John Stossel destroys mass shooting myth

Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:08 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:08 pm
A University of Alabama ( ) professor authored a study a while back that claimed the United States of America was far and away the mass shooter capital of the world. Despite never citing his sources or explaining how he did research, the media ran with this study and trumpeted as gospel. John Stossel proves them wrong.

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Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:10 pm to
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A University of Alabama professor


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never citing his sources or explaining how he did research



Sounds legit.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:48 pm to
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University of Alabama
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never citing his sources or explaining how he did research

He’s probably also in charge of the SEC replay committee.
Posted by Uncle Don
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:54 pm to
I think I’ve figured out who tutored Ruben Foster
Posted by OnTheGeaux
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:45 pm to
Great work by Stossel... well done and worth the 5 minute watch. Thanks for posting RT87.

Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:11 pm to
Lott's study has been posted and commented on here before.

I don't know about Langford's study, but the study that Lott did is obviously totally bogus. He's an out-and-out liar.

A significant number of the incidents reported in Lott's data occurred in areas where longstanding political and social struggles have been and are occurring. For example, 38 of the 451 pages of Lott's data were incidents involving Taliban attacks in Afghanistan. 25 pages of Lott's data were reporting incidents involving the Armed Islamic Group (AIG) and other rebel extremist groups in Algeria.

Lott saying that he used the same parameters as Langford is just a lie.

It's also obvious that either Stossel didn't look at Lott's data, or is too thick to figure out how Lott deliberately distorted his data.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:22 pm to
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A significant number of the incidents reported in Lott's data occurred in areas where longstanding political and social struggles have been and are occurring. For example, 38 of the 451 pages of Lott's data were incidents involving Taliban attacks in Afghanistan. 25 pages of Lott's data were reporting incidents involving the Armed Islamic Group (AIG) and other rebel extremist groups in Algeria.

Lott saying that he used the same parameters as Langford is just a lie.

It's also obvious that either Stossel didn't look at Lott's data, or is too thick to figure out how Lott deliberately distorted his data.



You are literally the dumbest poster on TD. Lott actually relesed his data set and Lankford still hasn't released his. Of course Lott's data includes Taliban attacks, he used the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database, which still qualify as mass shootings to anyone not a complete moron like you...
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:31 pm to
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You are literally the dumbest poster on TD. Lott actually relesed his data set and Lankford still hasn't released his. Of course Lott's data includes Taliban attacks, he used the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database, which still qualify as mass shootings to anyone not a complete moron like you...

Langford defined what he considered as a mass shooting. And that definition didn't include Taliban attacked in Afghanistan.

You think it's apples-to-apples to compare the number of mass shooting in the U.S. to the number of mass shootings in Afghanistan?

I would say you can't be that stupid, but obviously you are.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:34 pm to
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You think it's apples-to-apples to compare the number of mass shooting in the U.S. to the number of mass shootings in Afghanistan?


Didnt Langford do just that by claiming the US is the mass shooting capitol of the world? Or does the world not include middle eastern countries?
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:36 pm to
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what he considered as a mass shooting


Not how it works
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:42 pm to
Sounds like you are cherry picking to me.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:43 pm to
University of Alabama :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:47 pm to
The entire premise of mass shootings is designed to push gun control. They don't even cause a blip when viewed as a percentage of total murders.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Didnt Langford do just that by claiming the US is the mass shooting capitol of the world? Or does the world not include middle eastern countries?
I don't know what Langford did as far as data, but I do know that Lott's study using Afghanistan mass shootings in comparison to U.S. shootings was complete bullshite.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:51 pm to
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Langford defined what he considered as a mass shooting. And that definition didn't include Taliban attacked in Afghanistan.

Ok. Remove the Taliban incidents completely. Where do we rank after they're removed?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:51 pm to
A mass shooting is a mass shooting.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:55 pm to
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I don't know what Langford did as far as data


That’s the point.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:57 pm to
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what he considered as a mass shooting

Not how it works

You just write dumb-arse stuff like that without having any idea what your talking about.

Langford did his study and delineated what he was considering a mass shooting for the purposes of his study. You think it's against the rules to do that?

Do you think it's apples-to-apples to compare mass shootings in the U.S. to mass shootings in Afghanistan?

That's a yes or no question, in case you didn't know.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:59 pm to
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Sounds like you are cherry picking to me.
Sounds like you're afraid to say what you think I was cherry-picking about.
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