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John McArthur (Grace Community Church) defies California order and has full church service
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:26 pm
Received a standing ovation. McArthur is a big enough name in Christian circles that Gavin Newsom will tread lightly, so not to wake the silent majority. There were some reports that local officials intended to cut power to the church, but that did not happen.
Statement for Remaining Open: LINK
McArthur and then-San Francisco mayor Newsom went at it over gay marriage on Larry King 15 years ago.
LINK
Statement for Remaining Open: LINK
McArthur and then-San Francisco mayor Newsom went at it over gay marriage on Larry King 15 years ago.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 1:27 pm
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:27 pm to anc
Don't arrest protestors, can't arrest church goers.
Fair is fair.
Fair is fair.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:29 pm to anc
quote:
There were some reports that local officials intended to cut power to the church, but that did not happen.
In true communist form.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
Protestors have been and are getting arrested all over the place this year.
Dr MacArthur should be ashamed that he has put his aged
congregation in more harm's way than is necessary.
Dr MacArthur should be ashamed that he has put his aged
congregation in more harm's way than is necessary.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:35 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Dr MacArthur should be ashamed that he has put his aged
congregation in more harm's way than is necessary.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:35 pm to anc
shameful that any church in this country closed at all.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:37 pm to idlewatcher
quote:
Don't arrest protestors, can't arrest church goers.
They ARE protesting. Protesting sin, right?
Or are you only allowed to protest certain things?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:37 pm to GeorgeWest
His aged congregation do not have to attend if they feel like they would be in harm’s way.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:37 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Dr MacArthur should be ashamed that he has put his aged
congregation in more harm's way than is necessary.
Grown men and women don't need moron politicians to take care of them.
Free Americans are perfectly capable of evaluating risk and making decisions.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:37 pm to GeorgeWest
see you at the grocery store or walmart.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:37 pm to anc
quote:Place would have gone nuts with a capella singing. That would have been cool.
There were some reports that local officials intended to cut power to the church, but that did not happen.
However, I do feel that McArthur is being irresponsible here. It's one thing to hold church in civil disobedience...but he could have at least required masks, and organized physical distancing. C'mon dude...
That's not asking a lot.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:38 pm to SSpaniel
quote:Do you even Luther's Two Kingdoms??
They ARE protesting. Protesting sin, right?
Essentially, we are to willingly follow civil law, unless civil law goes against Scripture/violates Christian liberty.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:38 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Dr MacArthur should be ashamed that he has put his aged congregation in more harm's way than is necessary.
It is called freedom... foreign concept today apparently...
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:39 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Protestors have been and are getting arrested all over the place this year.
Not for protesting peacefully.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:43 pm to anc
Praise God.
Leaders told us that it was essential to keep liquor stores, abortion clinics, and such open-but not churches. I have a question. Am I to believe that God instructed us to not assemble as a Church, but I see these same people who expect me to believe that God has given them the “OK” to go, often, to Wal-Mart, Dollar General, Belks, Market Place (Grocery Store), Oil Lube Station, Pizza Hut, Convenient Store, City Hall, Restaurants, The Gulf, Sporting Good Store, and other places too numerous to name? Wow, how can I have confidence in the workers at McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Whataburger, Hardees, Ruby Tuesdays, and Waffle House that they are safe and careful in preparing my food and handling it? So much so that I put it in my mouth and consume it and wipe my mouth with the napkins which they hand me through the window or on premises? But, I can’t trust nursery, children, and youth workers at church to be careful? I can’t have confidence that Pastors, Deacons, Leaders, Greeters, and other workers will exercise utmost caution to insure my safety?
Leaders told us that it was essential to keep liquor stores, abortion clinics, and such open-but not churches. I have a question. Am I to believe that God instructed us to not assemble as a Church, but I see these same people who expect me to believe that God has given them the “OK” to go, often, to Wal-Mart, Dollar General, Belks, Market Place (Grocery Store), Oil Lube Station, Pizza Hut, Convenient Store, City Hall, Restaurants, The Gulf, Sporting Good Store, and other places too numerous to name? Wow, how can I have confidence in the workers at McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Whataburger, Hardees, Ruby Tuesdays, and Waffle House that they are safe and careful in preparing my food and handling it? So much so that I put it in my mouth and consume it and wipe my mouth with the napkins which they hand me through the window or on premises? But, I can’t trust nursery, children, and youth workers at church to be careful? I can’t have confidence that Pastors, Deacons, Leaders, Greeters, and other workers will exercise utmost caution to insure my safety?
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:47 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Dr MacArthur
McArthur, get it right.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:48 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
Protestors have been and are getting arrested all over the place this year.
Dr MacArthur should be ashamed that he has put his aged
congregation in more harm's way than is necessary.
frick you
0.0003% of them have been "arrested" and 90% of those go through a revolving door
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:49 pm to anc
Good for McArthur. While it's been a struggle for a lot of churches to abide by government regulations on social distancing and even forgoing in-person meetings, there is certainly a difference between circumstances of worship and elements of worship. Singing praise to God is an element of worship that is critical to what true worship is, and for the governor to say they can't sing is to dictate how the Church is to worship, which is certainly not acceptable.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:50 pm to Perfect Circle
“The constitution is not suspended in times of crisis...the First Amendment and federal statutory law prohibits the discrimination against religious institutions and religious believers.”
-AG Barr
-AG Barr
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:52 pm to FooManChoo
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Singing praise to God is an element of worship that is critical to what true worship is, and for the governor to say they can't sing is to dictate how the Church is to worship, which is certainly not acceptable.
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