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re: John Durham's Legacy

Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:04 pm to
“Russia hacked the election!”

A nauseating media refrain throughout 2017. And remember kids, no matter what Slotard and VOR try to tell you, they were getting their information straight from Obama administration sources who knew it was a lie.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:10 pm to
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Slotard 


Lol

I'm using that.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:12 pm to
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A nauseating media refrain throughout 2017. And remember kids, no matter what Slotard and VOR try to tell you, they were getting their information straight from Obama administration sources who knew it was a lie.


SFP is a big institutions guy. He loves to defend them

This thread is a pretty good indicator of how massive SFP's ego has become. He said he was educating us twice in this thread. I always felt like he was a healthy dose of full of shite in a good way but now I see he is full of himself more than anything.

The funny thing about some lawyers is they often get huge egos because they know we need them to help us with the rules. And they are masters of the rules. So there is this superiority element to a lot of them and their approach to the world.

But pull them out of their rules world and they are often just as stupid as anyone else. I think that is why some of the board lawyers are so pro institutions. The institutions and the rules are their comfort zone,

Like accountants and coders and engineers, AI is going to replace most of them anyway.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
90031 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:14 pm to
anyway moving on

this is a pretty good read on how the russians approached 2016 and what they actually did and didnt do

The Independent Article on DUtch Intelligence hacking the hackers
Posted by tadman
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:29 pm to
Good job
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:45 pm to
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At no point have you admitted this behavior deserves prosecution

That ship has sailed and after the USSC ruling on immunity may have never existed.

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. Instead, you openly called these actions “subjective opinions” and totally ignored the blatant misconduct.

Because the subjective opinions are the important variable giving them legal cover.

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That’s not just minimizing, that’s full-on defending.

I have not defended them. In your improper description of what you think I did, maybe, but that's not reality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:45 pm to
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I can see why you're holding him up as your proof of accountability for the frickery around Russiagate

Strawman

That's what you are trying to do, apparently.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:46 pm to
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yeah but clinesmith got probation or something so no worries.

You say this in response to something that isn't criminal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:46 pm to
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the narrative from MSM i

Has nothing to do with potential criminality of Obama, et al.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:48 pm to
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SFP is a big institutions guy. He loves to defend them

There is no defense.

It's describing the reality of these actions within our legal framework (institutions).

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He said he was educating us twice in this thread.

Have you seen the idiocy and lies people keep promoting?

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The funny thing about some lawyers is they often get huge egos because they know we need them to help us with the rules. And they are masters of the rules. So there is this superiority element to a lot of them and their approach to the world.

This situation isn't that complicated.

Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:50 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


I see the amateur legal analyst is chiming in.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:51 pm to
It's very necessary. Just look at all the fantasies and outright bullshite being posted about this situation

I mean these people are trying to manufacture a treason charge
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8720 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:25 pm to
Didn't Durham sang the song "I am the Walrus Goo goo g'joob"?
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:55 pm to
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That ship has sailed and after the USSC ruling on immunity may have never existed.


Ah, so now the Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity somehow protects Brennan, Clapper, and the rest of the unelected intelligence crew? That’s quite the stretch, immunity for the president doesn’t give retroactive cover to his underlings.

But I get it…if you can’t defend the actions directly, just point to a completely unrelated legal shield and hope no one notices.

You’re not making a legal argument. You’re making excuses. And bad ones at that.


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I have not defended them. In your improper description of what you think I did, maybe, but that's not reality.


If it walks like a defense, rationalizes like a defense, and protects like a defense…it’s a defense.

You’ve spent the entire thread framing misconduct as subjective nuance, downplaying consequences, and treating legal immunity as a moral pass. That’s not some misread, that’s what you’ve written.

You don’t get to build the shield and then act shocked when people point out you’re holding it.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:56 pm to
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quote:
I can see why you're holding him up as your proof of accountability for the frickery around Russiagate

Strawman
hardly
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A “differing interpretation” doesn’t excuse altering intel, lying to a FISA court, or concealing findings that contradicted the chosen narrative or their framing…That’s not opinion, that’s misconduct

note that this was all completely ignored
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I specifically covered it. Clinesmith was prosecuted.

Take the L
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Take the L

Not an L

I'm not "excusing" anything, and I already cited the consequences for the person who committed objective fraud. The rest is inappliable for reasons I already stated, but I'll state them again

Obama and those revealed in the Russiagate docs didn't present any evidence to FISA courts.

The rest they can default to a matter of opinion, as I've explained 100x already
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:59 pm to
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yeah but clinesmith got probation or something so no worries.

You say this in response to something that isn't crimina
Did he complete probation? What about the DC Bar? Surely they came down pretty hard on him. Or was there frickery there as well?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:00 pm to
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and I already cited the consequences for the person who committed objective fraud
consequences? Are you sure?
Posted by bstew3006
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13048 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:04 pm to
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It's very necessary. Just look at all the fantasies and outright bullshite being posted about this situation I mean these people are trying to manufacture a treason charge


Ah, there it is, the emotional unraveling of Poli-boards self-appointed legal scholar.

You came in swinging with your “necessary analysis,” and now you’re shouting about “fantasies and bullshite” like the thread personally betrayed you. Calm down, counselor, no one’s putting you on the bench.

No one’s manufacturing anything, the misconduct happened, the evidence is there, and your entire role here has been to dress it up just enough to pretend it’s not corruption.

But hey, keep calling everyone else irrational while you spiral because nobody’s buying the spin. Solid strategy, Saul Goodman
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