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re: John Durham's Legacy

Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:13 pm to
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I did not


You literally spent half the thread downplaying or deflecting from the clear manipulations by Obama-era officials, then pretended it was all just a “difference of opinion.” That’s exactly what defending looks like.

You can keep saying “I did not,” but when every reply minimizes the abuse of power or reframes it as a valid perspective, you’re not neutral…you’re running cover.

Your intellectual dishonesty isn’t subtle. It’s right out in the open for everyone to see.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:14 pm to
I bet Tulsi could beat your limp-wrist arse
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
20992 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:17 pm to
He stalled and pushed everything down the road. It’s what he was supposed to do. This massive government bureaucracy we have likes the status quo.
Posted by Akiro
Member since Jun 2025
414 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:22 pm to
Never trust a grown man with a goatee.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:22 pm to
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His example is one of actual fraud and he was prosecuted for it.
Really? What was the result of this "prosecution?"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475826 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:43 pm to
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You literally spent half the thread downplaying or deflecting from the clear manipulations by Obama-era officials

No

I spent this thread educating y'all why these prosecutions are unlikely to be fruitful

I even explained pages ago how this is specifically not a defense or commentary of the underlying actions

quote:

You can keep saying “I did not,” but when every reply minimizes the abuse of power

The posts don't do this, though.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475826 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:44 pm to
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What was the result of this "prosecution?"

More than Will happen against those involved in Russiagate in the memos and discourse from the admin.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:48 pm to
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More than Will happen
non-responsive. Please try again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475826 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:50 pm to
If my memory serves he got a felony conviction and probation
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68748 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:00 pm to
There was no criminality for him to find.
In fact, the reality is that Russian intelligence, based in St Petersburg did try to influence the 2016 election, primarily online, they wanted to create mistrust and doubt if they couldn’t get the result they wanted.
Tulsi has tried to create a strawman by concluding the Russians didn’t try to affect vote counts registered by machines in some areas. That was never what election interference by the Russians was about and Gabbard knows it…
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13048 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:02 pm to
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No I spent this thread educating y'all why these prosecutions are unlikely to be fruitful I even explained pages ago how this is specifically not a defense or commentary of the underlying actions


At no point have you admitted this behavior deserves prosecution or even condemnation. Instead, you openly called these actions “subjective opinions” and totally ignored the blatant misconduct.

That’s not just minimizing, that’s full-on defending. Don’t pretend otherwise. You’re defending abuse of power by dressing it up as “opinion.”

Stop dodging. Own it.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:02 pm to
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If my memory serves he got a felony conviction and probation
oh probation. Wow that's quite a penalty. Did he complete probation? I can see why you're holding him up as your proof of accountability for the frickery around Russiagate. What about the DC Bar? Surely they came down pretty hard on him. Or was there frickery there as well?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47499 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:32 pm to
Taibbi laid it out the best. He points out that the “reassessed” intel was being leaked to the press on the same day as the Obama meeting on Dec 9th. So before the new assessment could even be drafted, its conclusions -which were diametrically opposed to the original intelligence- were already smeared all over the Washington post- proving Obama and his inner circle dictated what they wanted the assessment to say. And this meeting wasn’t filled with agents working the case, sussing out the truth… it was 100% top level political appointees. So to suggest the shift was rooted in intelligence is asinine - especially considering there was no underlying intelligence to support it.

And we know it came from the top since idiot Clapper submitted a memo saying that Obama personally asked for the revised assessment.

Here’s the article. Note the date
LINK
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47499 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:34 pm to
Clinesmith was sentenced by none other than old Judge Boasberg.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:42 pm to
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Clinesmith was sentenced by none other than old Judge Boasberg
I'm sure everything was handled above board. I'm just waiting on the details from SFP. Obviously everything was fine because this is what he referenced SPECIFICALLY regarding all the illegalities in the Russia cover-up.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47499 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:50 pm to
Follow the timeline.
IC has an assessment that says Russia didn’t influence the election results, likely never tried, and didn’t favor Trump.
Brass finds out, panics, and Clapper pauses the president’s briefing on it.
Obama pulls inner circle in to discuss on Dec 9th 2016 to allegedly task them with taking another look.
That SAME DAY the CIA leaks to the WaPo that the “Russia Worked to Elect Trump”.


#spycraft
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:52 pm to
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That SAME DAY the CIA leaks to the WaPo that the “Russia Worked to Elect Trump
yeah but clinesmith got probation or something so no worries.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47499 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:53 pm to
Case closed!

Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90031 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:54 pm to
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Tulsi has tried to create a strawman by concluding the Russians didn’t try to affect vote counts registered by machines in some areas. That was never what election interference by the Russians was about and Gabbard knows it…


the narrative from MSM in 2017 was THE RUSSIANS HACKED THE ELECTION

stop lying

here is a montage you should watch
OMG THE RUSSIANS

Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90031 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:57 pm to
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Case closed!


these lying bitches are getting on my last nerve

bunch of revisionist bastards
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