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re: John Durham's Legacy
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:51 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:51 am to Meauxjeaux
Never trust a man who looks like a Walrus.
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:51 am to Decatur
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The difference is Tulski is completely full of shite.
You believe that Tulsi is working for Putin don't you.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Where, in this paragraph, does it say it was acceptable and to ignore Obama, Brennan, and other national intelligence and security team to omit, alter and falsify facts to push a political narrative to influence the public, undermine a duly elected president, his administration? He was there to find the origins of all of it.
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The problem is Durham understood what the first paragraph here meant:
Where, in this paragraph, does it say it was acceptable and to ignore Obama, Brennan, and other national intelligence and security team to omit, alter and falsify facts to push a political narrative to influence the public, undermine a duly elected president, his administration? He was there to find the origins of all of it.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:55 am to Meauxjeaux
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You posted something that has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand.
No. That first paragraph is going to give everyone involved some cover, likely enough to save most of them.
Intelligence is subjective, and it was established Russia did hack/interfere. They'll always be able to fall back onto that.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:57 am to bstew3006
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Where, in this paragraph, does it say it was acceptable and to ignore Obama, Brennan, and other national intelligence and security team to omit, alter and falsify facts to push a political narrative to influence the public, undermine a duly elected president, his administration?
Almost all of this falls under the subjective opinions involved in intelligence.
You're framing it, due to partisan reasons, in terms of intent, but they can always fall back to opinion and the fact that Russia did lots of the things that formed the backbone of their overall strategy.
Now, for the retards, this is not a "defense" of the actions, just commenting on the question in OP directly.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Intelligence is subjective, and it was established Russia did hack/interfere.
You’ve got a bit of a contradiction there.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:00 am to Decatur
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They both had access to the same info. The difference is Tulski is completely full of shite.
You sound scared
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:01 am to Bunk Moreland
And yet you believe those same DOJ’s aren’t capable of manipulating or destroying any real evidence that might have existed concerning Epstein?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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Intelligence is subjective, and it was established Russia did hack/interfere
Nobody is disputing that. It doesn’t contradict Gabbard’s conclusions.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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Almost all of this falls under the subjective opinions involved in intelligence. You're framing it, due to partisan reasons, in terms of intent, but they can always fall back to opinion and the fact that Russia did lots of the things that formed the backbone of their overall strategy.
No, I’m not “framing” it, it’s based off the facts in the recently rekeased documents that prove Obama and Brennan went in the opposite direction of intelligence reports. On top of that, Comey omitting and falsifying docs to fisa court.
That isn’t being subjective! This was willful intent of ignoring intelligence reports of findings.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:11 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
There's 3 possibilities as to why John Durham kept the lid on this:
1) He was afraid of being JFK'd.
2) He's part of the corrupt Political Establishment.
3) Some combination of 2 & 3.
1) He was afraid of being JFK'd.
2) He's part of the corrupt Political Establishment.
3) Some combination of 2 & 3.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:11 am to Flats
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You’ve got a bit of a contradiction there.
Well I was assuming people read it, but I'll clarify it fully for you
Intelligence is subjective, and it was established that the judgment that Russia did engage in conventional and cyber influence operations obtained from computer intrusions, in order to undermine faith in the US democratic process, was found to be credible based on proper analytic tradecraft.
I even clarified the hack/interfere portion, in case that was the next gotcha attempt.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:12 am to Chazreinhold
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You believe that Tulsi is working for Putin don't you.
Of course he does. The dems already labeled her a Russian asset years ago.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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but I'll clarify it fully for you
please dont.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:13 am to Undertow
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It doesn’t contradict Gabbard’s conclusions.
Her subjective opinions differ from the subjective opinions of the admin.
That's going to be the argument IF there are prosecutions, and the admin likely has a ton of adequate leeway for their defense, given the subjective nature of intelligence (especially within the context that Russia did hack/interfere with the "democratic process")
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:14 am to bstew3006
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I’m not “framing” it, it’s based off the facts
The opinions, largely.
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that prove Obama and Brennan went in the opposite direction of intelligence reports.
They had a differing interpretation of the bigger picture and sought a response-strategy in accordance with their opinions.
See how easy the defense is? It's not rocket appliances.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
It was established that Russia hacked HRC/DNC. It was also established that the election result was not impacted by cyber, and the Intelligence Community consistently assessed that Russia is “probably not trying … to influence the election by using cyber means.”
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:20 am to Vacherie Saint
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. It was also established that the election result was not impacted by cyber, and the Intelligence Community consistently assessed that Russia is “probably not trying … to influence the election by using cyber means.”
I'm not disputing that, but it in no way counters what I said.
I mean much of the backbone of these conspiratorial arguments are based around public statements and media commentary, which are irrelevant to the purported underlying scheme.
They were smart and engaged in this scheme with plenty of cover to avoid criminal scrutiny, ignoring the executive-immunity aspects. You had to get to a Clinesmith who literally forged data in a court filing to get exposed. That's why he was the only one who faced consequences.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/24/25 at 10:25 am to Chazreinhold
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Durham was the painter to complete the job
How dare you, sir. How dare you?
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