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re: Jo Jorgensen libertarian candidate
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:27 am to momentoftruth87
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:27 am to momentoftruth87
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Okay, let me correct myself here. She doesn't want free Healthcare, she wants to eliminate single payer Healthcare and have Healthcare for all. You cannot have Healthcare for all and it not be not free. Essentially it is a promise in the eyes that see it as free, because they don't understand how Healthcare works.
She wants to slash regulations that drive competition out of the healthcare market. Her policy stance on healthcare is essentially what Trump's was in 2016.
But apparently pricing transparency and a substantially smaller barrier to entry in the form of less government red tape = free healthcare. JFC.
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:29 am to momentoftruth87
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Okay, let me correct myself here. She doesn't want free Healthcare, she wants to eliminate single payer Healthcare and have Healthcare for all. You cannot have Healthcare for all and it not be not free. Essentially it is a promise in the eyes that see it as free, because they don't understand how Healthcare works.
Yeah i don't get why everyone thinks free health care is the boogie man that throws us into full on socialism. Literally every developed nation in the world has it but us and it works for them.
Ill even give you free health care may not be the answer but when hospitals purposely over charge everything to milk insurance companies it out prices anyone who doesn't have an employer that provide good health care options.
Hell any private contractor or small business owner is screwed also. Health care in this country is broken and needs to be fixed. Health care, schools, prisons should not be a for profit businesses yet we are just cool with that because of a capitalism boner.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:30 am to mindbreaker
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Yeah i don't get why everyone thinks free health care is the boogie man that throws us into full on socialism. Literally every developed nation in the world has it but us and it works for them.
The VA is a prime example, but I've had good and bad experiences.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:31 am to momentoftruth87
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She wants free Healthcare
Not remotely libertarian...the party is paid for by the Clintons...the VP pick for the libertarians was one of her guys back in the day
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:33 am to momentoftruth87
That'as right: take a stand, split the vote for some 3rd-party-no-chance-in-hell-wanna-be and find yourself licking the boots of commie reprobates.
Congratulations, you win!...
Congratulations, you win!...
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:35 am to TideCPA
What type of mental gymnastics do you have to jump through to conclude that illegal immigration and unfair trade will lead to reduced healthcare costs for working class Americans? You can have one, but not the other.
As the number of illegal immigrants without healthcare pour through your open boarders, combined with the number of US citizens that lose their employer provided healthcare when their jobs are shipped over seas due to your unfair trade policies, the rolls of Medicaid will grow and grow. It's the same lie told by the Democrats and ObamaCare; just rebranded by Libertarians.
As the number of illegal immigrants without healthcare pour through your open boarders, combined with the number of US citizens that lose their employer provided healthcare when their jobs are shipped over seas due to your unfair trade policies, the rolls of Medicaid will grow and grow. It's the same lie told by the Democrats and ObamaCare; just rebranded by Libertarians.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:36 am to momentoftruth87
if you love suicidal "free trade" and open borders your gonna love jo!
What is your position on immigration?
The freedom to travel is fundamental to human liberty. As American citizens, we should be free to travel anywhere we choose. As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to repeal executive orders restricting immigration and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside.
What is your position on trade?
The freedom to trade is fundamental to human liberty. As American citizens, we should be free to buy and sell anywhere in the world. As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs.
she'll make the world great again!
LINK
that's gonna be hard no for me!
there are over 400,000 elected offices in the united states only 55 are held by libertarians, the only reason they're given ballot access is to muddy up the water for republicans, because they sure as he11 haven't earned it.
win a congressional district and we'll talk!
What is your position on immigration?
The freedom to travel is fundamental to human liberty. As American citizens, we should be free to travel anywhere we choose. As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to repeal executive orders restricting immigration and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside.
What is your position on trade?
The freedom to trade is fundamental to human liberty. As American citizens, we should be free to buy and sell anywhere in the world. As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs.
she'll make the world great again!
LINK
that's gonna be hard no for me!
there are over 400,000 elected offices in the united states only 55 are held by libertarians, the only reason they're given ballot access is to muddy up the water for republicans, because they sure as he11 haven't earned it.
win a congressional district and we'll talk!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:43 am to jrodLSUke
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What type of mental gymnastics do you have to jump through to conclude that illegal immigration and unfair trade will lead to reduced healthcare costs for working class Americans? You can have one, but not the other.
An actual free market will lead to reduced healthcare costs. We don't have that now.
The entire reason hordes of people are flooding into the US is because of the welfare state, which libertarians want to slash. The right kind of immigration is healthy and necessary for a free country. A "sink or swim" economy attracts immigrants with entrepreneurial spirit and work ethic. Unfortunately, we have a "sink or float on the backs of the swimmers" economy, which isn't sustainable.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:47 am to mindbreaker
How did you do at the Poetry Slam the other night, Mindweaker?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:56 am to Chef Curry
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Libertarians are a bunch of wolves in sheep clothing. They are closet democrats who don’t want to publicly admit it.
Minarchist here.
I fricking hate Democrats.
And since when has a libertarian run in the Dem party?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:58 am to momentoftruth87
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She wants free Healthcare
But runs on wanting small govt
Not possible.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:05 am to oogabooga68
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How did you do at the Poetry Slam the other night, Mindweaker?
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oogabooga68
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:09 am to mindbreaker
Wow, I must be getting to you, Mind-weaker..... 
You didn't answer the question, BTW.
I guess Covid probly slowed down your DJ'ing gigs for a bit, but I'm sure the financial impact is negligible, living in Mom's basement and all.....
You didn't answer the question, BTW.
I guess Covid probly slowed down your DJ'ing gigs for a bit, but I'm sure the financial impact is negligible, living in Mom's basement and all.....
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:28 am to momentoftruth87
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“Republican and Democratic policies over the past fifty years are the reason health care has become so expensive. Their latest proposals to ‘fix’ health care will further micromanage your doctors and restrict your access to care while failing to solve the underlying problem. They differ only on whether this should be done by private insurance companies or government bureaucrats. This is the exact opposite of what needs to be done. We can reduce the cost of health care 75% by allowing real price competition, and by substantially reducing government and insurance company paperwork. This will make health care affordable for most Americans, while also reducing the cost of legacy programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA.”
Sounds good to me. LINK
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“The freedom to trade and travel are fundamental to human liberty. As American citizens, we should be free to travel anywhere we choose, and to buy and sell anywhere in the world. As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs, and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside. “
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:31 am to dowahdiddy
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“The freedom to trade and travel are fundamental to human liberty. As American citizens, we should be free to travel anywhere we choose, and to buy and sell anywhere in the world. As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs, and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside. “
That's an awesome idea...in a vacuum.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:33 am to momentoftruth87
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Jo Jorgensen libertarian candidate
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She wants free Healthcare
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But runs on wanting small govt
wut
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:33 am to Y.A. Tittle
Who disagrees with this??
Turn America into One Giant Switzerland: Armed and Neutral
That's enough right there to vote for someone. At least the lady is talking about serious issues.
Turn America into One Giant Switzerland: Armed and Neutral
That's enough right there to vote for someone. At least the lady is talking about serious issues.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:40 am to dowahdiddy
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Turn America into One Giant Switzerland: Armed and Neutral
Odd to mention them in response to my point there.
Switzerland's entire existence hinges on rather stringent economic/trade restrictions. Why do you think they wanted no part of the EU?
Again, it's fun to argue theories in a vacuum.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:42 am to Chef Curry
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Libertarians are a bunch of wolves in sheep clothing. They are closet democrats who don’t want to publicly admit it.
Funny thing plenty of democrats accuse libertarians of being closet republicans.
There are also plenty of libertarians out there who don’t even know what libertarianism is
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:51 am to momentoftruth87
She is dumber than Gary.
Also, I have no problems with libertarians, I voted for Gary twice (), but there is some funny shite on twitter making fun of them (me?).
Also, I have no problems with libertarians, I voted for Gary twice (
), but there is some funny shite on twitter making fun of them (me?). 
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