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JD Vance on Joe Rogan released today
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:39 pm
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:39 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:40 pm to hawgfaninc
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JD Vance says Republicans helped create the conditions that fueled the rise of socialism in America.
He warns that unless Republicans recognize this, America will elect a socialist president in the future.
“Does the socialism thing scare me? Yes.”
“Is it the wrong solution? Yes.”
“Socialism is the alternative if we don’t have a pathway to give people a sense that the system is not rigged and that the American dream is attainable.”
“We ran the experiment of offshoring all of our industrial jobs, becoming a services and finance economy, and allowing Wall Street to buy every asset of modern life.”
“What has that done?”
“It’s created a generation of kids who are attracted to socialism.”
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:40 pm to hawgfaninc
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NEW: Vice President @JDVance and Joe Rogan discuss a TIME article detailing an alleged Israeli funded “influencer” and digital media campaign aimed at undermining U.S. negotiations with Iran.
No foreign country should be allowed to run influence operations like this inside the United States!
So wrong!
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:43 pm to hawgfaninc
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New: Joe Rogan gets heated with Vice President JD Vance as they expose how California stole the election from Spencer Pratt:
ROGAN: “California is a deeply corrupt state. They’re trying to make it impossible for conservatives to win. I think they cheat.”
VANCE: “Absolutely.”
ROGAN: “Mail in ballots are a giant problem that should not be legal.”
VANCE: “The fact that we can’t have voter ID is insane. You can get prosecuted for trying to get someone to show their ID.”
ROGAN: “They like to say that’s it’s racist to ask for voter ID. How is that racist? Do you think other races are incapable of going to the DMV?”
VANCE: “Them saying it’s racist is actually super racist on their end. That means their argument is that blacks and Hispanics can’t go to the DMV to get an ID.”
ROGAN: “That seems like you want people to cheat. These are the same people that wanted us to show ID to prove we were vaccinated.”
VANCE: “Yeah you couldn’t even go to a restaurant without your ID. This is why conservatives are skeptical that they’re cheating.”
ROGAN: “I’m not skeptical. I’m accusing them of cheating. I think they stole the election.”
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:46 pm to hawgfaninc
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Joe Rogan presses JD Vance on whether people involved in Epstein's crimes had "undue influence" over the release of the files.
Rogan just lays out why millions of people stopped trusting the process, and makes the Vice President respond to it directly:
VANCE: "The idea that Donald Trump is being blackmailed is crazy to me because, again, I see the way that he makes decisions. I see the way that he processes this stuff. The idea that he picks up the phone with anybody and says, 'Hey, I'm gonna take orders from you.' No, that's just not how Donald Trump operates."
ROGAN: "Can you understand, though, why people would come to that conclusion, especially because of the Epstein files?"
VANCE: "What do you mean?"
ROGAN: "Well, the Epstein files were supposed to be released, and there was a tremendous amount of resistance to those files being released. And that concerned a lot of people, because if you're talking about very wealthy, powerful people that were engaged in crimes."
VANCE: "I see. You're basically saying the fear is that whatever's in the Epstein files was used to blackmail the administration into doing the Iran thing."
ROGAN: "Or at the very least, the people that were involved in the Epstein files that didn't want them coming out had undue influence."
VANCE: "Well, again, I say this with all candor. We absolutely screwed up the comms of the Epstein files. We just did. But do I think the reason we screwed up the comms is because we were trying to hide something? No. Pam Bondi said, 'The client list is on my desk.' Right?"
ROGAN: "Well, see, they had binders. They were standing in front—"
VANCE: "But those binders were largely documents that had already been released."
ROGAN: "What was the purpose of that performative display of the Epstein files? And she was saying there's tens of thousands of hours of film."
VANCE: "I don't know what the purpose of it was, but I know that the effect of it was to make people mistrust the entire effort."
"I know Pam. I like Pam. I don't think there was anything malicious going on. I think Pam was trying to respond to the political moment. I think she overstated what we had and what we didn't have. And I think that she got roasted for it publicly by a lot of people, including me."
"You and I have talked about this a lot. I'm one of the OG Epstein conspiracy theorists. I've probably gone down every single rabbit hole we could go down."
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:47 pm to hawgfaninc
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“EPSTEIN CLEARLY HAD CONNECTIONS TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF AMERICAN & ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE” - VP VANCE.
Rogan says he had a guest try to get him to meet Epstein in 2017.
Vance says even though Bibi Netanyahu isn’t very popular in America it appears Epstein had Israeli deep state connections mostly left of center.
Vance says in America he had connection across the political spectrum.
JD Vance the black hole of peak Epstein info was late 90’s early 2000’s.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:53 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:58 pm to hawgfaninc
If I recall several (ie Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, and the Saudis) Gulf Stated weren’t involved in those negotiations. Turkey, Pakistan, Oman, and Qatar were involved in the negotiations.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:11 pm to hawgfaninc
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JD Vance on Iran:
If the Iranian people want to rise up and change their government, that's up to them.
But we're not going to send 150,000 ground troops in order to accomplish a change in a regime unless the people on the ground themselves want to accomplish that outcome.
Now, we're not going to send the troops in regardless, but to propose sending in the troops, you're basically saying that the U.S. military should do the job for the Iranian people.
We're not in that business anymore. We're just not.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:16 pm to hawgfaninc
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JD Vance tells Joe Rogan there "probably was" a broader Epstein conspiracy, and he'll go to his "deathbed" believing there's a bigger story.
VANCE: "The problem is, if you go back to the original investigation, it was designed in a way that was way too narrow. If there was a broader conspiracy, and my view is that there probably was, the evidence that existed in 2007, that was the opportunity to get."
ROGAN: "So when you say there probably was a broader conspiracy, what exactly are you saying?"
VANCE: "I think there are a few different options. Look, man, you and I could literally do two episodes about this. I've gone down every rabbit hole."
ROGAN: "It's clear that he was trying to get in contact with people that he felt were influential. It was clear that he was trying to get people to get together on the island and meet at parties. So there was something he was doing where he was trying to either influence people or compromise people."
VANCE: "Correct."
ROGAN: "So there's some sort of an operation that was going on."
VANCE: "There is a story there. And I will go to my deathbed believing there's a story there, but I can't prove it. And I promise you, there's not some document that at least I'm hiding that allows us to prove exactly what was going on and how."
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:20 pm to hawgfaninc
JD’s answers on Epstein were very sus.
He’s usually smooth and was having a hard time with Epstein.
He also claimed it was a government coverup before becoming VP.
He’s usually smooth and was having a hard time with Epstein.
He also claimed it was a government coverup before becoming VP.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:29 pm to PorkSammich
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He also claimed it was a government coverup before becoming VP.
And shite changes when you get to the highest levels and actually see what evidence there actually is. This is applied to Massie as well, he shut his mouth the second he had full unredacted access and nothing turned up in his favor to use.
JD is correct it was handled completely wrong which is why people still doubt it. People have also seen many documentaries and podcasts discussing Epstein without any actual facts or evidence and have came to their own conclusions long ago.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:05 pm to DeBoar
Trump said there’s nothing in them, that’s fine with me. Am glad Maxwell got the deal she did too, if Trump thinks she didn’t deserve the punishment she got that is great for me.
Wish Trump would just create his own news network so we can finally get some truth.
Wish Trump would just create his own news network so we can finally get some truth.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:48 am to hawgfaninc
I think he came right down the center on the disdain for Israel topic. He called out paid influencers of Israel and Qatar. Cited many foreign influencers that will likely never end.
Israel is calling for our aid to fizzle out, yet some hawkers won't have it. Yet he said Israel is a friend more than foe.
He has a curious interest in CTs. I wish Rogan hit him on Thiel. But bottom line we have to beat China in AI tech, people will c/o like they did direct deposit like electronic banking was the antichrist.
Israel is calling for our aid to fizzle out, yet some hawkers won't have it. Yet he said Israel is a friend more than foe.
He has a curious interest in CTs. I wish Rogan hit him on Thiel. But bottom line we have to beat China in AI tech, people will c/o like they did direct deposit like electronic banking was the antichrist.
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 6:57 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 2:51 pm to hawgfaninc
Great podcast. Must watch.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 2:57 pm to hawgfaninc
The Israel first crowd aren’t happy with JD 
Posted on 7/16/26 at 3:07 pm to hawgfaninc
I’m not watching that whole video. But I did see Vance on Bill Maher’s show a few weeks ago and he did well overall, in my humble opinion.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 3:10 pm to hawgfaninc
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JD Vance says Republicans helped create the conditions that fueled the rise of socialism in America.
Because republicans are bitches mostly.
The 16th amendment was pushed hard by the Democrats and Progressives. They needed Republicans to pass it. Republicans didn't want the public backlash so voted for it thinking the sates wouldn't pass it. The states pass it and now the government robs all of our paychecks.
Because republicans.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 3:12 pm to hawgfaninc
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The Israel first crowd aren’t happy with JD
I would think the Jew haters would be mad too since he's telling you that foreigners, not just Israel, influence America.
And that he's a moderate on the Israel issue.
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