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re: JD Vance explains the Thomas Massie issue.

Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:36 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297153 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:36 am to
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No one is going to argue against lindsey being a swamp rat. Trump is positive towards lindsey because lindsay is helping pass what Trump was elected on



This alone should tell you how much a fraud the MAGA movement is. Cozying up to a guy who literally votes with Dems half the time and hating the most conservative member of congress.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297153 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:37 am to
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The programming has taken hold. It's as though they are under hypnotic spell.



I predicted in 2016 that MAGA populism would move these baws far left.


Its now happened and they still dont have a clue.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33398 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:43 am to
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they are conservatives who lean libertarian.

I said Republican. Rands not a conservative, no matter what he says. Hes for porous borders. He supports legalized drugs. He didnt want to interfere with Irans nuclear build-up. He gave Obama a pass for killing US citizens, but harps on Trump taking out drug boats
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Paul identifies himself as a "libertarian conservative."

And so has Massie
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Massie has identified himself as having libertarian principles

There is already a national party for them. They choose to avoid it. On purpose. Specifically so they can get elected. And then spend most of their time attacking the party that elected them

They need to play in their own pond. Quit mucking up ours. Bernie Sanders did it. He got elected outside the DIM party
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297153 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:46 am to
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Rands not a conservative



The MAGA cult never disappoints.

Dissing one of the more conservative members of congress and supporting Ms Lindsay, who votes with Democrats more than 40% of the time.


The Democrats ruined conservatism by trojan horse.


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They need to play in their own pond. Quit mucking up ours


No thanks. Your pond is too expensive due to progressive economics.
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125522 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:47 am to
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He gave Obama a pass for killing US citizens, but harps on Trump taking out drug boats


This isn’t true. Paul strongly criticized Obama on this issue. And filibustered a CIA appointee for it.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69117 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:48 am to
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That's the story we were told


I hate to tell you, but that's all politics is. That includes your deeply convicted principled conservative guy, Massie.

You choose to believe stories just like everyone else, friendo.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5767 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:49 am to
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Massie’s brand of earnest libertarianism


I say this as someone who spent the first decade and a half of my adult life as an ardent libertarian.

Its a foolish, pie in the sky ideology, that is as naive as socialism. Its mutually assured destruction. It doesnt work.


You are talking about two different things. The anti-statist libertarianism of Milei/Massie/Rand Paul is different then the "Big L" libertarianism of the Libertarian Party.

You do realize that, don't you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297153 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:51 am to
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You are talking about two different things. The anti-statist libertarianism of Milei/Massie/Rand Paul is different then the "Big L" libertarianism of the Libertarian Party.



Exactly. But the mere mention of Massie or Paul's name and the MAGAs act like they need an exorcism.
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:54 am to
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"Being independent and having your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you are eventually going to make too many enemies
So Vance is saying that there are too many Deep State followers in Congress and members should leave their integrity at the door or pay the consequences rather than make any attempt to drain the Swamp.

It is confusing that Trump supporters would be in agreement with this.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38110 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:55 am to
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Every frickin thread....its the jews.....before the end of the first page.

We have trillions in fcking theft of our own tax dollars by our own govt, a few shekels aint whats driving the mess.


Nobody mentioned "The Jews". Do you think all Jewish people support Israel and what they are doing or something?

You sound like a collectivist.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38110 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:57 am to
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Then you have completely naive and childish outlook on the reality of the inner workings of politics. This is the issue with libertarians, they can’t see the forest from the trees, they are so caught up in their principles, they don’t see the need for our side to push the ball down the field in a united and organized front. And this process is going to require some give and take.


Or, you're an idiot who thinks he has real choices because you listen to the rhetoric instead of looking at their actions.

I think Trump could role out Obama policies and people like you would defend them.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38110 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:58 am to
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I mean, like it or not, yeah it kinda is.


It's a uniparty and some of you are too dumb to figure it out.

Go ahead, keep supporting fricks like Lindsey Graham because he's "on your team".

I ain't that stupid.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38110 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:59 am to
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You voted for Kamala


You stupid fricks don't know what to do when someone is to the right of you.

You're all a bunch of socialists.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297153 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:00 am to
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He gave Obama a pass for killing US citizens, but harps on Trump taking out drug boats



Jesus christ the stupidity.

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It may have been Paul’s biggest moment so far in the Senate. He captured the attention of conservatives, libertarians and even liberals who have long questioned the legal authority of the Obama administration’s use of drones for targeted killings.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38110 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:00 am to
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Cry more, f@ggot.


Looks to me like you are the one crying and unable to formulate an actual response.

It's that shitty collectivist cult brain of yours. You're just like the left.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297153 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:02 am to
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Looks to me like you are the one crying and unable to formulate an actual response.




that guy has never discussed an issue. He's just an attack chihuahua.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1923 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:18 am to
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Whats wrong with fiscal restraint? Why do you progressives love your debt so much?


i guess the same reason, you're not real, don't live in alaska and are on social security disability. eat schit!
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33398 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:22 am to
You are so full of shite
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Rand Paul's drone 'evolution' now complete

Republican presidential hopeful Rand Paul was a major skeptic of U.S. drone policy. He's apparently changed his mind.

Like we have said constantly, Rand talks but doesnt do anything. Obama was let off the hook, and media called Rand out over it. Specifically Rand
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The Kentucky Republican, after saying very little soon after the revelations last week, is prepared to give the president a pass.

"You really don't get due process or anything like that if you are in a war zone," Paul this morning. "I tend not to want to blame the president for the loss of life here. I think he was trying to do the right thing."

The senator's apparent "evolution" is now complete.

Now shut the frick up for awhile. Youre ignorant of reality. Much like Rand and Massie
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52310 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:22 am to
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Yet you told me that Massies always leads by example

Why don’t you post a link to me telling you that, dipshit?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2826 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:23 am to
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That's the story we were told



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I hate to tell you, but that's all politics is.


In a sense, maybe.

But the ongoing "story" is 90% gaslighting, lies, fairy tales, mind-control manipulation and propaganda. Sprinkled with 10% troof.

How do we know that?

'Mockingbird Media' is a sanctioned function of Big Goobermint; The Smith-Mundt Act, (which would have prevented goob propaganda) was repealed from Congress.

Make what you will of "The News".
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