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Jamie Raskin: No "Criminal Conviction" Needed To Bar Trump Via 14th Amendment

Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:16 am
Constantly shifting the goalposts...

Breitbart link about a CNN interview

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Raskin said, “The authors of the 14th Amendment themselves dealt with that question. They felt that if someone sets themselves at war against the Constitution, and engages in the most profound anti-democratic act of trying to overthrow an election by installing themselves in office with an insurrection, then at that point, they are constitutionally barred. So, when people say, it is undemocratic what the voters decide, that’s like saying, let Vladimir Putin run for president, even though he’s not a U.S. citizen because it would be undemocratic to deny that choice to the voters. The Constitution has already made that judgment.


What a stupid analogy.

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He continued, “I think what we need is a judicial determination of whether or not an impeachment by the House, 57 to 43 vote in the Senate, enough to establish as a civil proposition that he’s engaged in insurrection or whether you need additional adjudicated fact finding by the court. But nowhere does it say that you need to have a criminal conviction in order to make section three of the 14th Amendment apply.”


There's a lot of things that aren't "said" in the 14th amendment so let's just make up a bunch of crap.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13165 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:17 am to
Raskin is a piece of shite.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:18 am to
quote:

They felt that if someone sets themselves at war against the Constitution, and engages in the most profound anti-democratic act of trying to overthrow an election by installing themselves in office with an insurrection...



But this never happened no matter how loud Jamie screams it did.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:19 am to
The Left are Nazis.

Anyone trying to defend this is as well.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79052 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:19 am to
Dude can legit DIAF
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:20 am to
I just can't get past how many times it has been stated here that the Dems would love for Trump to be the nominee, so I don't believe Raskin.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16724 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:20 am to
That’s a political statement. SCOTUS will make him look like a dumbass.


Think about the precedent that would set. Would be totally subjective. We could easily make a case that Biden can’t run.

And guess what. If the people want Putin, we will fricking get Putin. It’s about the people. Not the ruling class.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by TexSolo
Member since Oct 2023
273 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:21 am to
I'm still waiting to see what part of the Constitution Trump actually ignored or fought against. He literally has a Constitutional responsibility to investigate and stop fraudulent national elections. He has a Constitutional right to call for and support people protesting on his behalf. Meanwhile PedoJoe and his white guilt losers around the country literally ignores his Constitutional responsibility to protect our borders from invasion. So lefties/commmies/fascists/marxists/dems/pedogroomers/etc, please tell us what Trump did that violated the Constitution. Oh with facts, not opinion or conjecture from the Squad or CNN/Morning Mika/etc...
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:22 am to
Good luck on that one, buddy.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:23 am to
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I'm still waiting to see what part of the Constitution Trump actually ignored or fought against.


Article 4, Section 8: "No man shall be Orange and bad..."

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19448 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:23 am to
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The Left are Nazis.


They are Stalinists.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32646 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:26 am to
Stuff like this, no matter how much I think Trump has devolved into a buffoon makes me think he’s the right choice
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67787 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:26 am to
quote:

let's just make up a bunch of crap.



They have no rules.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:28 am to
Jamie Raskin is a liar and a dispicable human being who should be ashamed of how many lies he has stated as a politician.
His hatred for Trump should be pulled in because God cured him of cancer once, but maybe he may not be so generous a second time?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73526 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:29 am to
They are totally doing this to hurt Dessntis and keep Drumpf on the ballot
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:29 am to
Why would they care? Don’t they want Trump on the ballot? I am told by many on here he can’t win the general election.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6772 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:30 am to
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Raskin is a piece of shite.

The cancer should have taken him...
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:33 am to
So he thinks it’s not okay for s non citizen to run for president, but it is okay for non citizens to vote for a president? These people are insanely stupid.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8593 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:34 am to
People like Raskin have a particular nature. They are always trying to make sure it is done their way for it is the right way. It is no wonder a man had to scream long ago, "Let my people go."

Even then they fought the one who saved them.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:40 am to
quote:

There's a lot of things that aren't "said" in the 14th amendment so let's just make up a bunch of crap.


Well theyve been doing this for a long time with no fight back so not surprising.

Democrats talking about the "sanctity of the vote" need to be reminded that they didn't care about the vote of the people of CA when they voted against gay "marriage," which then ended up stripping states rights via SCOTUS.

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So, when people say, it is undemocratic what the voters decide, that’s like saying, let Vladimir Putin run for president, even though he’s not a U.S. citizen because it would be undemocratic to deny that choice to the voters

Is he saying there are no election rules on place to prevent a non-American born person from even getting in the ballot? If so, that should change. Every state should be required to have their birth certificate confirmed and turned in with their application.
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