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Jamie Dimon explains why socialism fails -- Bernie issues an idiotic response

Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:31 pm
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Jamie Dimon presented a prescient case against socialism, not only as it pertains to emerging sentiment in the Democratic Party, but also to its immediate ramifications abroad.

"I think we ought to educate younger kids — freedom and free enterprise are inextricably linked, they're not different," he said. "I mean, you can't tell people where you can work or how you're going to work, where are you going to — free enterprise was the pursuit of happiness. And, you know, once you have governments taking control of businesses, it ends up in corruption, in Venezuela and — and it rose over time because companies get used for political purposes, not to give you great products and services."

Although Dimon declined to weigh in on the specifics of the 2020 race, Bernie Sanders rightly viewed himself the target of the JPMorgan Chase CEO's warning about the economic system he said would "erode society."
Bernie's response . . .
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Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders
That's funny. Jamie Dimon seemed fine with corporate socialism when his bank got a $416 billion bailout from American taxpayers
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CNBC@CNBC
JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon takes on socialism, says it will lead to an 'eroding society'
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6:20 PM - Jan 22, 2020


Of course in his response, Bernie proves once again to be an economic/financial nitwit.

Anyone with a brain and marginal intellectual curiosity knows JP Morgan's role in TARP was as a significant asset to government efforts, not a liability. In fact, without JPM's cooperation, TARP probably would not have been possible.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:32 pm to
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Anyone with a brain


Doesn't include Bernie.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37631 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:34 pm to
Maybe Wall Street will learn to stop funding and pandering to Democrats because this is what you get.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:34 pm to
Diamon didn’t even want the funds. He was convinced to take them so the other banks who were really in trouble would follow suit. They paid them back immediately.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:40 pm to
Also the government asked JPM to buy Bear Stearns which they did and then went through all kinds of litigation.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:42 pm to
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He was convinced to take them so the other banks who were really in trouble would follow suit. They paid them back immediately.
Not exactly. Paulson's concern was that a bank in receipt of TARP assistance would be targeted as approaching insolvency, which could lead to customer cash withdrawal and a run on its stock. TARP would have turned into a sinkhole of good money chasing bad. The best way to avoid that outcome was to have every major bank accept TARP funds, whether needed or not. Jamie played along.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:46 pm to
JPM also paid back their TARP funds
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:49 pm to
OP, seems like Bernie won that round. You have to remember most Americans aren't going to know the minute details of TARP bail-out. Having a bank CEO defend capitalism is not good for the optics.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:52 pm to
And Bernie had no problem with capitalism when he was taking a payoff from Hillary.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123910 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:53 pm to
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JPM also paid back their TARP funds
So did nearly all recipients. JPM repaid on the first date.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14143 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:54 pm to
Bernie Sanders is the aardvark from the old pink panther cartoon. That’s all you need to know.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18309 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:56 pm to
John Allison, the former head of BB&T, would've been a better advocate for capitalism. That bank didn't do ninja loans but was still forced to take TARP money by the gov't.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140451 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:57 pm to
Do the people get a lake house in Bernie’s utopia?

He’s so full of shite.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4588 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:59 pm to
Bernie wins only if you don’t listen to or agree with Damon’s fundamental truth.
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"I think we ought to educate younger kids — freedom and free enterprise are inextricably linked, they're not different," he said. "I mean, you can't tell people where you can work or how you're going to work, where are you going to — free enterprise was the pursuit of happiness.

Our education system sides with Bernie - socialists for the most part.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:14 pm to
Chase replayed a part in rigging the Libor index. They are as dirty as giant bank can be.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:44 pm to
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Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders
That's funny. Jamie Dimon seemed fine with corporate socialism when his bank got a $416 billion bailout from American taxpayers


Member when American government made Jamie Dimon’s Bank make billions in loans it never would have made if not forced to, thus leading it to near collapse and in need of a government bailout, Bernie? Yeah I member...

Eta: by it I should clarify the industry, not just chase
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Skeet Mc
Member since Dec 2006
2849 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:55 pm to
Jamie is talking out of both sides of his mouth. Playing to freedom and capitalism, as he should, but by tomorrow resume spouting off his typical limousine liberal, democrat BS.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57244 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:55 pm to
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That's funny. Jamie Dimon seemed fine with corporate socialism when his bank got a $416 billion bailout from American taxpayers
And Bernie supports handing over $3T/yr ... every year... for “medicare for all”.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79679 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:05 pm to
I’ve said it before and I’ll repeat: Bernie Sanders is an economic retard.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123910 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:06 pm to
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That bank didn't do ninja loans but was still forced to take TARP money by the gov't.
As was JPM
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John Allison, the former head of BB&T, would've been a better advocate for capitalism


Dimon made his statement this week in Davos. So where was/is John Allison?

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