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re: Ivy League elitist: Says bringing back manufacturering is about racism
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Do you know how many factories you'd have to create to compete with Apple? Google? Facebook?
1 successful electronic strike on the U.S., and those entities would be ruined and worthless.
You will still always need welders, machinists, mechanics, etc. and most of those guys begin learning their profession in a manufacturing environment.
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Slow, do you work hard to be this fricking stupid or does it flow naturally for you?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:02 am to auggie
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1 successful electronic strike on the U.S., and those entities would be ruined and worthless.
Cool. So would factories
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You will still always need welders, machinists, mechanics, etc. and most of those guys begin learning their profession in a manufacturing environment.
They wouldn't have materials in a few weeks to continue their trade and no electricity to do anything, in your scenario.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:03 am to OTIS2
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Slow, do you work hard to be this fricking stupid or does it flow naturally for you?
Please explain your brilliance with an actual response.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:07 am to squid_hunt
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Party of figs and pot.
Thought that was libs?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:11 am to burger bearcat
The reason they got rid of manufacturing is to hurt millenials
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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Are you thinking in terms of tactile only?
Yes.
Go try to eat a Facebook post for dinner and let me know how it works.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:19 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Yes.
Go try to eat a Facebook post for dinner and let me know how it works.
This isn't a binary world where you have to choose between one or the other. You're thinking of our economy with a 1970s brain and not a 2020s brain.
Nobody is saying the US will move entirely to a developed economy. We still produce a ton of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level goods.
We're still in the top-10 in agricultural goods
We're top 3 or so in secondary output (behind only China and the EU)
We are a distant 1st place in the tertiary and tech sectors.
This myth that we don't produce stuff anymore is legit stupid.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
The us doesn’t have an economy we just buy junk from China and put it in boxes and sell it to each other
We’re basically Venezuela with fat people but minus the freedom
We’re basically Venezuela with fat people but minus the freedom
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:21 am to Ping Pong
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This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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Cool. So would factories
We manufactured everything that existed before computers did, and could do it again.
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They wouldn't have materials in a few weeks to continue their trade and no electricity to do anything, in your scenario.
Yes, but if you have skilled people, you can find a way to get things up and running again.
If you lose those skilled people, then everything is lost.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:30 am to auggie
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We manufactured everything that existed before computers did, and could do it again.
Yeah we can go back to a late-1800s lifestyle once we return to late-1800s population. That will go smoothly I'm sure.
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Yes, but if you have skilled people, you can find a way to get things up and running again.
They aren't skilled in that way, though. A welder is highly skilled at welding, but what good is he/she without welding equipment?
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If you lose those skilled people, then everything is lost.
They would be lost, effectively. They're not skilled in a late-1800s world. Even carpenters use modern technology and would have a rocky road, and this is ignoring the supplies aspect. There would be no nails, boards, etc. within a short amount of time.
You think we could just snap our fingers and go back to the late-1800s, but we'd end up more like the Middle Ages (without the roman stone structures that can last for hundreds of years on their own).
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
I have a 1950s Bridgeport milling machine in my shop, that I use on a regular basis. If there was no electricity I could still set it up to run off of power from a water wheel, or horses turning a carrousel, and it would still be just as accurate and could do the same work.
You should just go on and say, that you don't know anything about doing anything.
It's a fairly simple thing to fabricate a welder from available parts that are plentiful. There are still people that know how to do these things, but they are disappearing along with the environment that produced them.
Getting rid of that type of manufacturing is national suicide, because you lose the skilled people.
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They aren't skilled in that way, though. A welder is highly skilled at welding, but what good is he/she without welding equipment?
You should just go on and say, that you don't know anything about doing anything.
It's a fairly simple thing to fabricate a welder from available parts that are plentiful. There are still people that know how to do these things, but they are disappearing along with the environment that produced them.
Getting rid of that type of manufacturing is national suicide, because you lose the skilled people.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:52 am to auggie
Ok you could. We're talking about a country of 330M+ people
Cool you get to use it for a few weeks until you can't refill it with Oxyacetylene anymore in perpetuity
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It's a fairly simple thing to fabricate a welder from available parts that are plentiful.
Cool you get to use it for a few weeks until you can't refill it with Oxyacetylene anymore in perpetuity
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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They aren't skilled in that way, though. A welder is highly skilled at welding, but what good is he/she without welding equipment?
What are the vast majority of our modern economy’s workers skilled at? Have you ever been to the offices of a major corporation, even a tech corporation?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:59 am to Mo Jeaux
If our electronic infrastructure is permanently fricked, they're useless, too.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:59 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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It’s amazing how these Ivy League types are void of actual intelligence and common sense
They confuse education with indoctrination. They have been taught what to think not how to think.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Cool you get to use it for a few weeks until you can't refill it with Oxyacetylene anymore in perpetuity
Do you use Oxygen and acetylene on your arc welder?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Yes, they are.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 9:06 am to burger bearcat
I legitimately don’t understand what point he is trying to make here. It sounds like he’s saying this only got political attention because loss of manufacturing affected white people. That may be the case, predominantly, in the Midwest which he refers to but is not the case in the South.
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