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re: I’ve turned lukewarm to Ron.

Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20029 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:13 pm to
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Give us one example.


This thread is a fine example. The topic is focused on Desantis and a particular talking point, but turns into a “but Trump” thread like 4-5 posts in.

You guys refuse to let anyone be critical of Desantis without harassing them saying they are trump cultists. You have to assume when you read something you don’t like about your favorite candidate that the other persons mind is made up as solid as your own. It’s obnoxious dem behavior.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17927 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:21 pm to
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Ron don't see this...Trump does. It's sadly a matter of which one pulls the trigger and meets the BLM/Antifa 'insurrectionists' in the streets. And then moves on to truly draining/replacing the Deep State TPs who really run the show. I think if Ron truly saw this, he'd have stayed put and let Trump do the dirty work, and then stepped in clean.

It’s amazing how a Trump super fan can type this out and it doesn’t occur to him that DT absolutely 100% failed at doing this already. You realize Trump was president in 2020, right?

Now tell me - how many people died and how many city blocks were razed in Florida during the 2020 Saint Floyd riots?

On May 31, 2020, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis activated the Florida National Guard, and deployed 700 soldiers to assist law enforcement agencies across the state. Additionally, DeSantis instructed the Florida Highway Patrol to mobilize 1,300 troopers to assist in policing actions.

Maybe the reason Ron didn’t sit back and let Trump clean up the mess in a second term is he’s a rational thinker rather than an emotional midget, and has concluded like a lot of conservatives have, that it’s probably no better than 50/50 that we get a more effective DT in a second term, and we really can’t afford another four years of the Leftists that ran amok during Trump’s first term tightening their grip on the country.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1929 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:48 pm to
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Ron and his supporters still believe that the System (Dem Deep State) can be reformed via the System; they think it is business as usual. Truth be told is that NO Republican POTUS that does not accept the Dem's anti-Constitutional agenda and policy will be allowed any power to affect or nullify said agenda.

Many if not most of Trump's supporters know this having watched in full view the criminal means that the sanctimonious Dems have employed to stop Trump's traditional 'American First' policy. They know that there will no Systematic compromise in DC and that it will take a virtual and violent response to the street war that the Dems will AGAIN launch if or when a true 'Conservative' POTUS begins to roll back Dem (Transnational Progressive" hegemony.

Ron don't see this...Trump does. It's sadly a matter of which one pulls the trigger and meets the BLM/Antifa 'insurrectionists' in the streets. And then moves on to truly draining/replacing the Deep State TPs who really run the show. I think if Ron truly saw this, he'd have stayed put and let Trump do the dirty work, and then stepped in clean. To what he'd step into is anybody's guess. It's going to be a train wreck any way we cut it. Always has been, always will be, until the Good Lord is at the helm. The coming calamity ('End Times', of the current World Cultural Visionary Paradigm) is what will set the stage for that monumental and "fundamental transformation".



Can you please show some supporting evidence of the claims you make? I'll show you mine:

DeSantis vows to purge FBI on day 1

DeSantis says he will eliminate 4 federal agencies if elected president

DeSantis vows to fire Christopher Wray, bring reckoning to CDC and NIH

DeSantis signs anti-riot bill into law sparking outcry from democrats and civil rights groups

DeSantis activates Florida national guard ahead of possible protests

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14622 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Jon Ham


So mad.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1929 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:59 pm to
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doesn’t occur to him that DT absolutely 100% failed at doing this already. You realize Trump was president in 2020, right?



If ever there was a line in the sand moment in the battle against the swamp/globalists/deep state/whatever you want to call it -it was Covid. And while I will admit that Trump was in a tough spot during it being an election year (as designed) - major inflection points that change our way of life shouldn't be expected to be anything other than tough.

It wasn't that he didn't fire Fauci, it was that he allowed Fauci to gain cult hero status and become unfireable. A career beaurocrat deeply involved and loyal to the swamp. Trump's other mistake was continuing to make absolute proclamations like "it will be gone in a few weeks as if it were never here" repeatedly at the start after each previous one he made became untrue.

We have the benefit of hindsight but there were plenty of people that called everything right from the start. You all know it's true.

He was our guy - our hope to win against the deep state. Answer this honestly - what did he do to combat them during that pivotal moment in our history?
Posted by VictoryTiger
Member since Aug 2023
382 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:47 pm to
If DeSantis posted here, I think he’d be embarrassed
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17927 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:18 pm to
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He was our guy - our hope to win against the deep state. Answer this honestly - what did he do to combat them during that pivotal moment in our history?

Very, very few Trump supporters will ever rationally/honestly address this. In this thread some of them have whined about a lack of substance to "Ronbot" posts, but they'll shrink/hide from substance like this.

Covid response changed this country dramatically and in a shitty way. It's probably the most impactful event on our country since WWII. And like it or not, Trump should (and ultimately will) be judged for the colossal mistakes he made throughout.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Very, very few Trump supporters will ever rationally/honestly address this. In this thread some of them have whined about a lack of substance to "Ronbot" posts, but they'll shrink/hide from substance like this.


I would still like to know how they think that Trump can win back voters he lost in ‘20. What he is doing right now is not bringing them back, and he is energizing the Democrat Base with his post indictment “Truths”.
I guess that would entail admitting that he did lose those voters, and some will never admit that he did.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17927 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:50 pm to
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I would still like to know how they think that Trump can win back voters he lost in ‘20. What he is doing right now is not bringing them back, and he is energizing the Democrat Base with his post indictment “Truths”.
I guess that would entail admitting that he did lose those voters, and some will never admit that he did.

I think he's making serious strategic mistakes. Weeks ago, his focus should have shifted to targeting Newsom (Biden ain't going to be the nominee) but he/his fans have a weird obsession with DeSantis. Maybe it's their insecurity related to how liberal, or "un-conservative" the whole movement has become? At any rate, Team Trump is assuming they're going to get DeSantis voters no matter how much they trash (often dishonestly) the best governor conservatives have going, and they're right for 90% or so of RDS supporters. But he's going to need 98% of them, or he his chances in the general dramatically shift negatively.
Posted by ChumLeeVol
Memphis
Member since Jul 2023
318 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:37 pm to
Paul Ryan advising him this is what happens
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72820 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:46 pm to
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o how liberal, or "un-conservative" the whole movement has become?


YES YES! TRUMP IS TO THE LEFT OF W AND MCCAIN LOOK AT HIS POLICIES

TO THE LEFT OF OBAMA

shite HE IS TO THE LEFT OF STALIN!

OH NOZ

HURR DURR

fn moron
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17927 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:16 pm to
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YES YES! TRUMP IS TO THE LEFT OF W AND MCCAIN LOOK AT HIS POLICIES TO THE LEFT OF OBAMA shite HE IS TO THE LEFT OF STALIN! OH NOZ HURR DURR

Why do you have to go to the absurd to post?

Trump is to the Left of legit conservatives. Explain how that statement isn’t true or STFU.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47701 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:18 pm to
Would you rather the party of Ilhan Omar?
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