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re: I’ve never seen anything like this

Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6823 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:25 pm to
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I'm in the financial business too, like you, and I can tell you that you don't know WTF you're talking about.


This may be very true, but the point I was trying to make is that market analysis is not supposed to have bias. I never said I agreed or disagreed with the analysis that the US is headed towards a recession, but there is data that some people are interpreting in such a way. Are these people dems pushing an agenda? I guess time will tell.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:26 pm to
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There is data to suggest it is trending towards a recession. There are other factors that indicate that data may not be applicable at this time.


This is the truth.

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Why is reporting this viewed as some conspiracy?


Well, you know people.

This graph shows a correlation between inverted yeild curves and recession. It is an indicator, not 100% certain.

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:27 pm to
WTF is that goofy as chart. In your words why do yo think we are going into a recession? Also, when do you think this will occur?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:30 pm to
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The 5 indicators of a recession are real GDP growth, retail spending, manufacturing, employment/unemployment, and wages/income. And each of these things must be down/negative for at least two straight quarters for us to meet the definition of being in a "recession".


Those are not "Indicators". They are metrics by which we determine if we are indeed in a recession. The inverted yield curve certainly seems to correlate to beginning of "recessions" or periods of economic slow down.

You can attack people on here all you want but I guarantee you people are beginning to get defensive with their investments. Consumer sentiment is a real thing.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37615 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:31 pm to
They can try all they want. You can’t fake households working that haven’t worked before and more money on your check. More people notice those two things than watch the Fake News.

Landslide cometh
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:32 pm
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:53 pm to
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This may be very true, but the point I was trying to make is that market analysis is not supposed to have bias. I never said I agreed or disagreed with the analysis that the US is headed towards a recession, but there is data that some people are interpreting in such a way. Are these people dems pushing an agenda? I guess time will tell.
What data?

There isn't anything except for the bonds inverted yield curve, and I explained why that happened and that it has nothing to do with our economy.

I gave you THE stats used to determine a recession, and ALL of them are trending positive in a big way. There is zero indication of a pending downturn in any of them.


Every decent advisor I know right now is making bank on playing put and call options depending on how hard the media is screaming "recession". We're shorting shite one day, and buying long the next.

The entire market is driven on sentiment of ignorant sheeple being manipulated by the media right now. And I'm sorry, but it's so predictable I'd be an idiot not to play and get my clients some extra alpha.

So I don't know who you're getting your analytics from, but they're either idiots or you're talking out your arse.

There is no looming recession.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39522 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Financial bros are not biased, the only color they see is green.


Most are Jews and White Guilt Trippers that support liberal Democrats and their agendas.
Posted by Deege
Member since Dec 2007
912 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:06 pm to
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It’s dangerous and quite honestly insidious.



Making us believe we are racists and the county is not worth fighting for.


They were well on their way to talking us out of our country.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62433 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:11 pm to
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74% of economists in survey see US recession by end of 2021 . . . . . By end of 2021? Seriously?
Wait a second... Over 1/4 of economists think the economy will keep soaring for over five straight years? HOLY shite
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:16 pm to
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Those are not "Indicators". They are metrics by which we determine if we are indeed in a recession.
That's retarded.

The 5 things used to determine if we're in a recession aren't the 5 things used to determine if we're heading towards a recession??

LOL, good grief.


The inverted yield curve nonsense is propaganda. Foreign investors are flooding our bond market looking for security. They're also flooding our securities market too, by the way.

You know why? Because those foreign countries economies are shite and trending downwards and ours isn't.

Do you not understand that we now live in a technological age where people can trade in our markets on their phone?

You know what else is a bonafide indicator that no recession is coming? The fact the Leftwing media is screaming it almost giddy.

I work in the industry, and not a single one of the fund managers and analysts I know think a recession is looming. They're all buying long after shorting the days the media screams "recession" the loudest.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64175 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:20 pm to
That chart is so shitty it hurts. They forgot to mention the chart itself is biased to the extreme left.
Posted by Noryev
Member since Aug 2018
1207 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:20 pm to
The fact that CNN is where it is, just let’s me know that graph is shite.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76981 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:21 pm to
It's a blind Hail Mary by the garbage dems.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34425 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:59 pm to
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According to this source, they are the most unbiased (Reuters and Bloomberg)
i considers your source up until I saw they have Vox listed as a fair interpretation of the news. C’mon man
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34425 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:04 pm to
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That source has NPR, NYT and BBC as neutral and fact reporting
outside of opinion pieces and editorials, I find all of those to be pretty fair when actually just reporting the news
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79448 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:28 pm to
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Then why is Trump asking the Fed to lower rates? Shouldn’t rates be raised in times of strong economic growth?


Offset the short term effects of the trade war.
Posted by birchbayduck
Birch Bay, Washington
Member since Jul 2019
473 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:30 pm to
Any wage increase is due to government entities raising the minimum wage...stop with your pull it out of your arse bullshite as wages have been stagnant for almost all Americans since 1965.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:31 pm to
With the economy chugging along at a great again level why do we need fed rate cuts and QE???
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53732 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:12 pm to
The Power of Propaganda and Indoctrination.

Watch just how effective it can be.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:17 pm to
It has trump tweeting for fed rate cuts and QE!!! Doesn’t he know the economy is rockin’ out with its cock out???
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