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re: It's the Sabbath. Let's settle this: who would Jesus vote for?

Posted on 10/4/20 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 1:44 pm to
I am Catholic and it’s not in any documentation
Posted by Mellow Drama
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 1:48 pm to
"Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood* has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:09 pm to
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don't think he would vote but I also think he would despise Trump for his arrogance and money first mindset. But I don't think he would have any love for lawless Biden either.
I can't stand these threads, but I'll bite.

Jesus would love both men. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one in the same.

In 1 John Chapter 4, the Bible reads, "Beloved, let us love one another. For love is of GOD, and everyone who loves is born of GOD and knows GOD. He that loves not, knows not GOD for GOD is love."

Everyone who is born knows love, for they were born of GOD. GOD loves the sinners and Saints alike, and HE does not forsake nor forget us. HE is the light on our journey, and the final judgment at journey's end. The journey itself is up to us to do right or wrong.

I do not believe Christ would throw his vote at either men or either party. Republicans and Democrats both have both good and evil positions...

Such is the duality of man. We are born good because we are born of GOD and love. Yet, we are also born of the earth which is the Deceiver's property, and therefore we are also born inherently evil.
Posted by Turnaroundtiger
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:09 pm to
You think? Didn’t Jesus drown a lot of innocent people in the flood?
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:15 pm to
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who would Jesus vote for?

Posted by Turnaroundtiger
meadville
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:16 pm to
I guess it was tough love when Jesus drowned all the little babies in the flood.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:20 pm to
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it’s not in any documentation


You sure about that, baw?

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Sunday - fulfillment of the sabbath

2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:107

Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death.108
2176 The celebration of Sunday observes the moral commandment inscribed by nature in the human heart to render to God an outward, visible, public, and regular worship "as a sign of his universal beneficence to all."109 Sunday worship fulfills the moral command of the Old Covenant, taking up its rhythm and spirit in the weekly celebration of the Creator and Redeemer of his people.

The Sunday Eucharist

2177 The Sunday celebration of the Lord's Day and his Eucharist is at the heart of the Church's life. "Sunday is the day on which the paschal mystery is celebrated in light of the apostolic tradition and is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church."110

"Also to be observed are the day of the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Epiphany, the Ascension of Christ, the feast of the Body and Blood of Christi, the feast of Mary the Mother of God, her Immaculate Conception, her Assumption, the feast of Saint Joseph, the feast of the Apostles Saints Peter and Paul, and the feast of All Saints."111

2178 This practice of the Christian assembly dates from the beginnings of the apostolic age.112 The Letter to the Hebrews reminds the faithful "not to neglect to meet together, as is the habit of some, but to encourage one another."113

Tradition preserves the memory of an ever-timely exhortation: Come to Church early, approach the Lord, and confess your sins, repent in prayer. . . . Be present at the sacred and divine liturgy, conclude its prayer and do not leave before the dismissal. . . . We have often said: "This day is given to you for prayer and rest. This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it."114
2179 "A parish is a definite community of the Christian faithful established on a stable basis within a particular church; the pastoral care of the parish is entrusted to a pastor as its own shepherd under the authority of the diocesan bishop."115 It is the place where all the faithful can be gathered together for the Sunday celebration of the Eucharist. The parish initiates the Christian people into the ordinary expression of the liturgical life: it gathers them together in this celebration; it teaches Christ's saving doctrine; it practices the charity of the Lord in good works and brotherly love:

You cannot pray at home as at church, where there is a great multitude, where exclamations are cried out to God as from one great heart, and where there is something more: the union of minds, the accord of souls, the bond of charity, the prayers of the priests.116
The Sunday obligation

2180 The precept of the Church specifies the law of the Lord more precisely: "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass."117 "The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day."118

2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin.

2182 Participation in the communal celebration of the Sunday Eucharist is a testimony of belonging and of being faithful to Christ and to his Church. The faithful give witness by this to their communion in faith and charity. Together they testify to God's holiness and their hope of salvation. They strengthen one another under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

2183 "If because of lack of a sacred minister or for other grave cause participation in the celebration of the Eucharist is impossible, it is specially recommended that the faithful take part in the Liturgy of the Word if it is celebrated in the parish church or in another sacred place according to the prescriptions of the diocesan bishop, or engage in prayer for an appropriate amount of time personally or in a family or, as occasion offers, in groups of families."120



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2190 The sabbath, which represented the completion of the first creation, has been replaced by Sunday which recalls the new creation inaugurated by the Resurrection of Christ.

2191 The Church celebrates the day of Christ's Resurrection on the "eighth day," Sunday, which is rightly called the Lord's Day (cf. SC 106).

2192 "Sunday . . . is to be observed as the foremost holy day of obligation in the universal Church" (CIC, can. 1246 § 1). "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass" (CIC, can. 1247).

2193 "On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound . . . to abstain from those labors and business concerns which impede the worship to be rendered to God, the joy which is proper to the Lord's Day, or the proper relaxation of mind and body" (CIC, can. 1247).

2194 The institution of Sunday helps all "to be allowed sufficient rest and leisure to cultivate their amilial, cultural, social, and religious lives" (GS 67 § 3).

2195 Every Christian should avoid making unnecessary demands on others that would hinder them from observing the Lord's Day


https://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a3.htm
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted by steadytiger
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:32 pm to
I'll settle this one. Neither, as he could not just choose from the least worse, and leave his name on every mistake made.
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:33 pm to
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Obviously to answer that question we gotta establish whether he would even vote and if so, what candidate does he align with?


He would vote because he said to respect the government as long as it’s just. Saying this shows he has respect for governing leadership .

As for who he would vote for, there’s a few things for certain that would make him vote republican every time.

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But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.


There is only one party that makes sin okay for children. Pushing homosexuality on children is exactly what’s mentioned above.

I almost don’t want to mention pedophilia because being a democrat doesn’t make you a pedophile. I chose to mention it because of all the Democrats ties to pedophilia (and Mainly the laws made recently in California).


And the one and only thing that really needed to be said; abortions. There’s absolutely zero policies the republicans have that would make Jesus say “I can give abortions a pass if it stops _____”.


Also, he would not vote for the party that wants his teachings censored from the public.
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:34 pm to
Jesus wouldn’t get involved in politics.
His concerns were based on spiritual concerns and not daily worldly ones.
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:36 pm to
Well, Jesus certainly wouldn’t be cool with Catholics today so I’m not so sure it matters. If you know Jesus in the Bible and not the ritualistic mass that’s held then you could find documentation of what he’s about.
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:46 pm to
Murdering and Misleading children probably would be seen as just “politics” in his eyes.
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 2:58 pm to
Neither. He isn’t an American citizen.
Posted by prplngldtigr
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 3:58 pm to
He also believed you taught a man to fish and to not just GIVE him fish.
Teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 4:57 pm to
Yes I am sure because you said church going was changed By the Catholic Church to Sunday because:
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the Catholic Church just to show they could.


But it’s obvious there was a reason and it’s within all the catechism you posted - they didn’t do it ‘just because’ - I read my catechism before I posted the first time - it was changed because of the reason I posted the first time - it was not to exercise authority as you alluded to - it was to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus
Posted by Mud_Till_May
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 5:04 pm to
The sabbath is Saturday, the first day of the week is sunday
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 5:06 pm to
Wow - funny - we read from the BIBLE at the ‘ritualustic’ Mass we attend that’s based off of the Last Supper which is featured in what?? The BIBLE. Not really sure what your problem with the Mass is, maybe you’ve never been?

And I’m sure Jesus would be down with the devout Catholics - it’s the cafeteria Catholics that give the church a bad name

I mean you really think Jesus would be on the political trail with Joe Biden, or you think he’d be out in the streets with the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal or the Daughters of Charity?

Joe Biden is like the rich guy that wants to follow Jesus but can’t give up his stuff or like the Pharisees that want to stone the adulteress (so easy to call out someone else’s sins than work on their own) not saying Trump is not like that - but Trump isn’t using his religion as a tool to gain votes
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 5:09 pm to
Jesus has already voted

Let that sink in
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Wow - funny - we read from the BIBLE at the ‘ritualustic’ Mass we attend that’s based off of the Last Supper which is featured in what?? The BIBLE. Not really sure what your problem with the Mass is, maybe you’ve never been?


So aside from a passage or two in the hour long ritual, how much of that is condemned by Jesus himself? Rhetorical question because I know.

Former catholic btw. I have been a lot, was confirmed and married in a Catholic Church. But I know there are a ton of things that takes away from Jesus and gives to a human. Prayer isn’t supposed to be repetition. Personally I believe talking to God is more important than saying 10 hail marries.

I’m not trying to be ugly.

I don’t think Jesus has ANY problems with devout Catholics. My grandmother is in chapel multiple times a week and hits mass at least on Sunday, sometimes Wednesday as well... I just think the organization of priests, popes, bishops etc. aren’t following the Bible. Not that the congregation doesn’t follow. Some of the best people I know are Catholics, FWIW.
Posted by mudcat tiger
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/4/20 at 5:40 pm to
Anyone who claims to be a Christian, a true follower of Jesus, will vote FOR...the sanctity of marriage, support of Israel as sovereign nation, AGAINST abortion ( murder), gay marriage for starters. You just to figure out what candidate/party supports those ideas. It ain’t rocket science.
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